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Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#171

Okay, time to start wearing ski masks and Santa Claus costumes in public at all times.

Bring out the ugly t-shirts!

(see:

http://jesse-pearson.com/interviews/william-gibson/

from: "(..) What’s interesting with regards to the book while thinking of this stuff is that the garment that sort of helps to save the day is a t-shirt. You call it the ugliest t-shirt in the world."

for some expansion on the reference.)

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#172
post #153

Its absurd people are outraged about something like this, relatively harmless and at the same time use Facebook. The social network has your face, all your life, moods, expressions, interests,personal conversation etc. Now THAT is worrying and not some pizza shop which gathers stats to know what type of customer is their frequent visitor.

You're in control with Facebook. It's you who gives them the data. If this is true, it's all stuff that they're taking by stealth.

I'm pretty sure my 300 friends have given fb more data about me, than I have. [ed: and that doesn't even interlude the tracking from "like"-buttons etc]

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#173
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a few stores here in Australia, I am asked for my post code (or country of residence if no post code) by the cashier when ringing up a sale. Predominantly at tourist/tour related points of sale, but I've also had it an electronics and white goods stores. No idea if the operator is also recording gender and perceived age group etc., but I do know that on most occasions, you can opt not to answer the post code quest…

By cross-referencing your name (from your credit/debit card) with your zip/post-code, stores are able to determine specifically who you are with greater probability than without the zip/post-code.

With near 100% probability actually. There was a detailed report on that few years ago.

Googling for "why stores ask for the zip code" brings up a lot of press post, e.g. https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/06/19/theres-a-...

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#174
post #136
post #15

You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

Why is this scummy exactly? If a salesperson was to try to sell to you in a store, they would take into account how you appear and act to tailor the sale. There's nothing wrong with that. Why is it suddenly bad if a machine does it?

Also if it records images it would fall under data protection legislation in the EU

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#175
post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're in control with Facebook. It's you who gives them the data. If this is true, it's all stuff that they're taking by stealth.

I'm pretty sure my 300 friends have given fb more data about me, than I have. [ed: and that doesn't even interlude the tracking from "like"-buttons etc]

Sure, but you can choose not to be on Facebook.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#176
post #15

You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

I love how many people replied to your comment about how creepy this is with their age, appearance, and gender.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a few stores here in Australia, I am asked for my post code (or country of residence if no post code) by the cashier when ringing up a sale. Predominantly at tourist/tour related points of sale, but I've also had it an electronics and white goods stores. No idea if the operator is also recording gender and perceived age group etc., but I do know that on most occasions, you can opt not to answer the post code quest…

I'm not sure if it's true, but a friend once told me the reason a store asked for your zip code was to see if they had a large audience coming from a certain area. This let them know other locations to possibly open other stores.

Sometimes the credit card terminal will ask especially at gas pumps for my zip code as an anti fraud measure, and will reject the transaction of you enter the wrong number. If a cashier is asking I always use 90210.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#178
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always give the post code of the shop, if I know it, or one nearby that I do know.

Wait, why do you know the post codes of the places you shop?

Wait, you don't? :-)

Seriously, I mostly shop in the same neighbourhoods. And when not, there's often something on the counter with their address...or I can give a mate's address and let him get the junk mail....

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#179
post #119

It saddens me that there are people in our profession for whom implementing such a thing presents no moral or ethical dilemma.

Has nothing to do with morals - people gotta eat

"You can’t buy ethics offsets for the terrible things you do at your day job." https://deardesignstudent.com/ethics-cant-be-a-side-hustle-b...

and from the same guy:

"Don’t ask how you’re going to pay your rent working ethically. Ask why you’re open to behaving unethically in the first place." https://deardesignstudent.com/ethics-and-paying-rent-86e972c...

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#180
post #15

You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

Oh dear it thinks I'm a 35 year old woman...

It's AI, it knows you are secretly trans.
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