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Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and... . This is the "Google Dialer". This is one example; there are dozens more.

The Google Dialer only works on Stock Android. Which is a shame.

Only from the Play Store. The APK can be installed on any device with the same architecture as it's built for. I have it on my LG G4.

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.

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Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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What exactly is wrong with the dialler being an app ? It allows exactly what the author wants with his specific desire for a dialler that does not rely on play services or true caller.

From the article: "When You install and use the Services, Truecaller will collect personal information from You and any devices You may use in Your interaction with our Services. This information may include e.g.: geo-location; Your IP address; device ID or unique identifier; device manufacturer and type; device and hardware settings; SIM card usage; applications installed on your device; ID for advertising; ad data,…

Again, if the dialer is a system component does this and you can't remove it, you are out of luck.

Since the dialer is an app, if for some reason you don't like it, you can deactivate it (you can't uninstall preloaded apps since they are on a private system partition, but disabling it is enough : it does not appear in the app least and can't startup).

So you just have to install another that suits you better.

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. At the current rate that's how the language will shift. I suppose we'll know if people start referring to things like "macOS deskphones" and think "laptop" always meant "laptop phone". :) It's like those futurist ads from the 50s (and 80s/90s) AT&T that soon there will be phones capable of amazing things everywhere in our li…

> I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. I wouldn't be surprised. I suspect that a smartphone is the only computer very large majority of today's children has ever used.

Something I never really thought of but that definitely looks like the trend: http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/10/29/technology-device-owne...

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

You could call it a mobile, which is about as common in Britain as calling it a phone. (The full name being a mobile phone.)

The German word, "Handy" is also good. They are very handy, after all.

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

#96
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I completely disagree with the title. The fact that "telephony" can be an app on the phone is a WONDERFUL thing. It means that the author of this article has a choice, as opposed to NOT having a choice.

Every choice induces stress. Sometimes we really need to be able to make that choice, but requiring choice or having too much choice overwhelms people.

Which would be an issue if Android came without any defaults and gave you a debilitating number of setup options.

But it doesn't, and the stress of choice is only undergone voluntarily when someone volunteers to choose. Otherwise, defaults are king.

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Skynet v. 0.1 didn't build itself. Clearly, though, once it becomes a minimum viable product, it will produce the next generations of itself. Or will it? If it's an AI intent on approximating human speech processing, why should it be any good at programming? See also https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9658524/1/Branches-on-the-Tree-... .

I wonder what makes people think that an AI needs to be able to code to improve itself. I don't see infant brains "programming" themselves to get better. The next step in programming is probably not anything like programming. Machine learning certainly isn't. Creating a neural net that achieves superhuman image recognition takes 30 lines of code in keras. And terabytes of training data. But the programming doesn't lo…

I don't know, Rogue One had a droid typing on a keyboard /s

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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And vacation sweepstakes, and shitty recruiters, and IRS scams, and... This must be the elephant in the room. Traditional telephony has become dominated by bad actors. They hit a critical mass and now my phone app is a waste of space.

I've always found it weird how everyone I know seems much more cautious about phone usage than me: for example, I've never understood why people don't answer numbers they don't recognize. I'm slowly realizing that this is because apparently people are inundated with spam calls? I think I may have received one solitary spam call in my entire life. I can't really account for the discrepancy

In my case it seems to be a random anxiety. I don't want to make calls. Oddly, I'm basically OK with receiving them, thought spam calls are unreasonably annoying.

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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My iPhone is my pocket computer. It's on a tablet plan (data only - up to 1GB for $20 CAD) because voice and text is something I would hardly use. TextNow worked fine for me in past for phone calls and texting non-apple devices but I've since switched to Hushed as my go-to. I've never used the built in "Phone" app.

What do you do about phone interviews?

Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

#100

Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

You could call it a mobile, which is about as common in Britain as calling it a phone. (The full name being a mobile phone.)

My boss, an old fashioned English gentleman, uses the full name 'mobile telephone' in everyday conversation.
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