It's a real problem. Are there any voice dialing programs for Android phones which do voice recognition locally and don't require Google services? That's the way it used to work until Google broke it so they could monitor all your dialing.
Google in 2007: Do no evil. Google in 2017: Skynet didn't build itself people! We need more ML training data!
Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
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Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#52I fought having a phone through to 2008 - now I'm reconsidering wanting one again if there was a pure messaging device right now with no voice - I'd bite their hand off I don't need a mobile browser or even apps - all they do is stop me from disconnecting from work for a few minutes or hours - I don't think always-on is good for anyone over time
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#53Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?
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#54I fought having a phone through to 2008 - now I'm reconsidering wanting one again if there was a pure messaging device right now with no voice - I'd bite their hand off I don't need a mobile browser or even apps - all they do is stop me from disconnecting from work for a few minutes or hours - I don't think always-on is good for anyone over time
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#55I completely disagree with the title. The fact that "telephony" can be an app on the phone is a WONDERFUL thing. It means that the author of this article has a choice, as opposed to NOT having a choice.
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#56This why we need [edit] GDPR. Next time someone tries to harvest my personal data using an "all-inclusive" EULA I'm going to sue his ass in EU-land.
GPDR is actually GDPR in case you are trying to read up on what that means and don't know already.
[0] - http://www.eugdpr.org
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.
I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. At the current rate that's how the language will shift. I suppose we'll know if people start referring to things like "macOS deskphones" and think "laptop" always meant "laptop phone". :) It's like those futurist ads from the 50s (and 80s/90s) AT&T that soon there will be phones capable of amazing things everywhere in our li…
Then maybe we really will be able to "receive a fax at the beach"[1] in the future!
[1]: http://mentalfloss.com/article/50105/you-willsend-fax-beach
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#58Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?
I can still make/receive occasional calls on it via Google Voice. But I use it much more as a mobile computer, and appreciate the bigger screen.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google in 2007: Do no evil. Google in 2017: Skynet didn't build itself people! We need more ML training data!
I think ideas like shoehorning SMS into Hangouts (or vice versa?) are driven more by misguided bonus formulas than any overtly evil intent.
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.
Obligatory link to Cory Doctorow's 'War on General Computing': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg
The video helpfully has a transcript: https://github.com/jwise/28c3-doctorow/blob/master/transcrip...