I fought having a phone through to 2008 - now I'm reconsidering wanting one again if there was a pure messaging device right now with no voice - I'd bite their hand off I don't need a mobile browser or even apps - all they do is stop me from disconnecting from work for a few minutes or hours - I don't think always-on is good for anyone over time
Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
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Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#22I don't agree. It's simply that some vendors are untrustworthy. Frankly if the telephone app on my "phone" stopped working I wonder how long it would take me to notice.
If the dialer stopped working I'd never notice, but if the phone app broke entirely I'd stop getting calls from telemarketers and loan scams.
And vacation sweepstakes, and shitty recruiters, and IRS scams, and...
This must be the elephant in the room. Traditional telephony has become dominated by bad actors. They hit a critical mass and now my phone app is a waste of space.
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#23I fought having a phone through to 2008 - now I'm reconsidering wanting one again if there was a pure messaging device right now with no voice - I'd bite their hand off I don't need a mobile browser or even apps - all they do is stop me from disconnecting from work for a few minutes or hours - I don't think always-on is good for anyone over time
https://www.apple.com/ipod/
you can't get SMS
I need a 2 week battery life, LCD screen, SMS/pager thing, with a Blackberry physical keypad and no voice or apps - and a simple mute switch
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#24Disagree entirely. The stock phone app is likely the least used app I keep on my phone.
My main point is actually that I am forced to use this dialler without my consent. I am not trying to say that users shouldn't be able to customise the system but I am opposed to manufacturers forcing data-hungry 3rd party programs on customers.
at the same time, we can choose to install a different third party dialer no?
maybe what we need is a 3rd party dialer that pledges privacy.
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#25This why we need [edit] GDPR.
Next time someone tries to harvest my personal data using an "all-inclusive" EULA I'm going to sue his ass in EU-land.
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#26You purchased a Chinese mobile phone and it installed spyware in an update.
Anybody who's ever purchased a mobile from eBay or AliExpress has already seen that. They need to get their revenue from somewhere. Next time stick to a known, trustable brand.
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#27Did I read that correctly?
Isn’t this sweet? I am searching for a dialling application for my smartphone. A DIALLING application.
Does this mean he can't practically call someone outside his contacts list as there's no way to key in phone numbers? Or would he still be able to make regular voice calls?
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
My main point is actually that I am forced to use this dialler without my consent. I am not trying to say that users shouldn't be able to customise the system but I am opposed to manufacturers forcing data-hungry 3rd party programs on customers.
at the same time, we can choose to install a different third party dialer no? maybe what we need is a 3rd party dialer that pledges privacy.
The point is, this should not happen to core functionality. Specially not sneaky like this.
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#29It's a real problem. Are there any voice dialing programs for Android phones which do voice recognition locally and don't require Google services? That's the way it used to work until Google broke it so they could monitor all your dialing.
Google in 2007: Do no evil. Google in 2017: Skynet didn't build itself people! We need more ML training data!
Skynet v. 0.1 didn't build itself. Clearly, though, once it becomes a minimum viable product, it will produce the next generations of itself.
Or will it? If it's an AI intent on approximating human speech processing, why should it be any good at programming? See also https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9658524/1/Branches-on-the-Tree-....
Re: Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party
#30I don't agree. It's simply that some vendors are untrustworthy. Frankly if the telephone app on my "phone" stopped working I wonder how long it would take me to notice.
If the dialer stopped working I'd never notice, but if the phone app broke entirely I'd stop getting calls from telemarketers and loan scams.
The irony is TrueCaller was originally created to combat telemarketing calls..