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N.S.A Halts Collection of Americans’ Emails About Foreign Targets

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Re: N.S.A Halts Collection of Americans’ Emails About Foreign Targets

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So, they archive the data and promise not to collect it (look at it) unless they have a national security letter signed by a judge^H^H^H^H^H drinking buddy from the office.

Not only do they "promise" but they realize they'd be violating the legal boundaries placed on their organization if they do. Arguing they shouldn't have the capability for this is like arguing the army shouldn't be allowed to have tanks because then they have the capacity to perform a military coup. No judge has ever signed an NSL. That's precisely the distinction between a "regular" judicial subpoena and an adminis…

Maybe I should have ended with a smiley, because I don't feeel tardy^H^H^H^H^H angry. I was just trying to point out that there is a way that "retroactive collection" can take place that isn't "judicially approved."

I do think the US could use some legislative work on privacy. I'm glad there are FISA courts issuing search warrants, but don't think national security letters should actually be a thing.

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Eureka! We make a class-action lawsuit, charging the government $X billion for violating our copyrights because of NSA surveillance!

Alas! Sovereign immunity means you can't sue the government without their permission.

Where are you going to sue the government... in a government court?

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And what will you need to show to obtain said rubber stamp? This is not secret, either: Search for "how FISA works" here: http://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/files...

Curiously, a fair amount of genetic research is done this way: the genetic info is PHI, but the covered entity holds the data and the computer capacity. The researcher just pushes an algorithm to the cluster and gets aggregate results back.

That's the idea, but in practice GA4GH is still working on the API's and protocols to make this work in an automated and containerised fashion for modern genetic data. We do often send the algorithm to the data but mostly by way of granting an account to collaborators and them sshing into a remote cluster because copying 120 terabyte datasets is no fun.

Re: N.S.A Halts Collection of Americans’ Emails About Foreign Targets

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Alas! Sovereign immunity means you can't sue the government without their permission.

Where are you going to sue the government... in a government court?

Only in a revolution, I suspect. And revolutions are not to be undertaken lightly.
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