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Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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The wifi Mac address is obscured from native code

Didn't used to be and it's unclear what the exact timing is of this code.

Apple made the standard API return garbage in iOS 6, and the API would probably trigger an analysis error iTC, so if they were getting the MAC address it was via much sneakier means.

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I don't think he means the idea wouldn't have happened without him. It's his ability to disrupt an industry tightly coupled with government.

Kalanick is a Napoleonesque figure, a great conqueror who doesn't know when to pull back on the reigns, because he knows nothing else. Our memories are short, we're skewering him for being exactly the kind of animal that not to long ago most everyone was rooting for.

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Anyone uncomfortable with these kind of profiles? I'd rather judge his business decisions in isolation rather than having this quasi psycho analysis where it's implied we can get better insight of his business by knowing he was bullied

Yes. And why didn't he explain how he turned the table on his high school bullies. Odd to include that psycho analysis and then leave out any details there.

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"Using an email digest service it owns named Unroll.me, Slice collected its customers’ emailed Lyft receipts from their inboxes and sold the anonymized data to Uber. "

Can someone explain to me the mechanics of how this happens? I use Lyft, which emails me a receipt. How does Slice get a hold of this? Does Lyft sell it to Slice?

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Phone numbers can be trivially changed. In the article this is in the context of fraudsters buying used phones to fake rides in China and take advantage of incentive programs to make money. So they want to track these devices as they change hands.

Phones can change ownership too, so even if you can identify the phone it is dangerous to assume that you have identified a person.

If you can buy a new phone for $5 and the referral bonus is $20, there's $15 arbitrage to be made just by buying up as many phones as you can.

So I think their goal is not so much about identifying people, but identifying devices in order to prevent this loophole.

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I'm off uber after a BS "5 minute" issue. I've been using it for years, they literally had to burn so much goodwill to get me to stop using them, it's almost impressive.

Further proof it's a pure commodity service and customer satisfaction is the most important metric for them to measure.

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I have heard that it is quite possible. Supposedly if you measure enough characteristics of the phone, the combination of such characteristics is enough to uniquely identify a phone. May be able to poll such information you measure with those measured by other apps.

There are quite a bit of SKUs, but not enough to make the phone unique itself. You'd ultimately need something more special to do so, such as the MAC address. It's not clear if such code would work today on the latest iOS version but maybe. They probably used a private API to do so, and that itself was obfuscated in the compiled binary such that apples automatic analysis would fail to catch it.

> They probably used a private API to do so

My understanding was that Apple made those APIs return garbage anyway, so more hacky methods were required.

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> "to be clear, a # of companies practice 'fingerprinting,' and it is fully breaking the App Store rules. But also very clever fraud detection." https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/856180005977677825

wonder why Mike Issac gave that clarification immediately to his twitter-base but didn't put it in the relevant section? could it be because the article intentionally glosses over complex details in order to pump a specific narrative ... hmm. \s

That's a clever media hack. Using provocative headlines and misleading lead to get clicks and shares, but using a separate medium (Twitter) to get away with it.

Clever, but it's disappointing that even NYT is turning into this madness.

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>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…

they're cheaper because they can subsidize their fares via VC money

The drivers also subsidize the cheap(er) fares.
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