> Uber considered Lyft and McDonald’s its main competition for attracting new drivers.
can somebody explain this?
Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could be via other apps using ubers native sdk writing to a common key store. ala Google sharing auth between apps on iOS.
Such key stores are wiped on erase. They more likely used the wifi MAC address.
Keychain used to persist data and are shared, this was a very recent change in iOS to "fix"
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have heard that it is quite possible. Supposedly if you measure enough characteristics of the phone, the combination of such characteristics is enough to uniquely identify a phone. May be able to poll such information you measure with those measured by other apps.
There are quite a bit of SKUs, but not enough to make the phone unique itself. You'd ultimately need something more special to do so, such as the MAC address. It's not clear if such code would work today on the latest iOS version but maybe. They probably used a private API to do so, and that itself was obfuscated in the compiled binary such that apples automatic analysis would fail to catch it.
No, they fingerprint the phone like browser fingerprinting.
Unique settings, apps installed etc.
Very hard to have a non-unique set up with enough data points.
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#74I really hope Lyft doesn't do anything to screw up, as I've uninstalled Uber and will probably never use the service again. However, I don't see myself going back to regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. I just hope Lyft plays the game with a social conscious and makes positive decisions and continues to treat drivers well (most Lyft drivers I talk to say they like driving for Lyft way bette…
>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable.
The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda.
The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous.
Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. But there is no need to make taxi drivers out to be evil.
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#75For all the criticism he is getting, this would never have happened without him. Taxi companies are too strong, and the US needed someone like him to break barriers. Lyft would never have existed without Uber. Now that Uber broke through the path (and is getting destroyed for it) the way is open for lots of other companies. It happens all the time that the company that invents or creates something new, does not actua…
This is a good perspective
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#76From the article, explained: At the time, Uber was dealing with widespread account fraud in places like China, where tricksters bought stolen iPhones that were erased of their memory and resold. Some Uber drivers there would then create dozens of fake email addresses to sign up for new Uber rider accounts attached to each phone, and request rides from those phones, which they would then accept. Since Uber was handing…
I think they're referring to Keychain items surviving an app deletion. That quietly stopped working in a recent iOS update.
Was the keychain item surviving app deletion a feature that was dropped or an undocumented feature?
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#77For all the criticism he is getting, this would never have happened without him. Taxi companies are too strong, and the US needed someone like him to break barriers. Lyft would never have existed without Uber. Now that Uber broke through the path (and is getting destroyed for it) the way is open for lots of other companies. It happens all the time that the company that invents or creates something new, does not actua…
> this would never have happened without him How can you be so sure of this? The person who came up with the concept behind Uber was not Kalanick, it was Garrett Camp. http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-travis-kalanick-bio-2014...
The hard part of Uber wasn't the idea
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#78Anyone uncomfortable with these kind of profiles? I'd rather judge his business decisions in isolation rather than having this quasi psycho analysis where it's implied we can get better insight of his business by knowing he was bullied
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could be via other apps using ubers native sdk writing to a common key store. ala Google sharing auth between apps on iOS.
Such key stores are wiped on erase. They more likely used the wifi MAC address.
The wifi Mac address is obscured from native code
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#80For all the criticism he is getting, this would never have happened without him. Taxi companies are too strong, and the US needed someone like him to break barriers. Lyft would never have existed without Uber. Now that Uber broke through the path (and is getting destroyed for it) the way is open for lots of other companies. It happens all the time that the company that invents or creates something new, does not actua…
> this would never have happened without him How can you be so sure of this? The person who came up with the concept behind Uber was not Kalanick, it was Garrett Camp. http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-travis-kalanick-bio-2014...
I don't think he means the idea wouldn't have happened without him. It's his ability to disrupt an industry tightly coupled with government.