Apple admits the Mac Pro was a mess

Post by valuearb » Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 6:39 AM UTC

terminado wrote: post #9

It's just that it's not worth $4,000 or even $3,000. The trashcan is cool, despite looking like a trashcan, but way too expensive for what you get. Something at that price needs to last, and permit upgrades. For what you get, and what you can do with it, it's not worth more than $1,000. Many Apple fans buy for status though, and Apple knows this, hence the watch. So, simply having the price tag as an ornament works f…

Post by exidy » Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 7:05 AM UTC

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25

ux-app wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just bite the bullet and hackintosh. It's ridiculously easy. I put one together in an afternoon with parts I had lying around. It even had GPU acceleration for all those silly UI animations to run smoothly. There are lists of hardware that are guaranteed to work. I'm not a Mac guy so I scrapped the system, but as a bored weekend project it was fun. I had no issues installing updates, networking was fine etc.

I tried this a year or so ago, my only stumbling block was getting iMessage/iCloud working properly, which was very difficult, has that improved?

Post by enz » Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 10:16 AM UTC

barryp wrote: post #11

I hope somebody at Apple can get it through their heads that a Mac Pro desktop doesn't need to be the thinnest, lightest box full of the most exotic parts with corners engineered to within fractions of a millimeter. It just needs to: 1. Run macOS 2. be fast as hell 3. be quiet 4. be reasonably priced 5. be somewhat expandable on the inside with RAM and disks 6. have a variety of external ports 7. be spec-bumped at le…

Post by jmanderley » Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 10:51 AM UTC

valuearb wrote: post #41

terminado wrote: post #9

It's just that it's not worth $4,000 or even $3,000. The trashcan is cool, despite looking like a trashcan, but way too expensive for what you get. Something at that price needs to last, and permit upgrades. For what you get, and what you can do with it, it's not worth more than $1,000. Many Apple fans buy for status though, and Apple knows this, hence the watch. So, simply having the price tag as an ornament works f…

When it was released, the GPUs in the trash can cost more than its cheapest version. The Apple watch is best smart watch ever made. Far better to spend $400 on a useful watch than $200 on a useless one.

Post by collyw » Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 1:00 PM UTC

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #34

barryp wrote: post #11

I hope somebody at Apple can get it through their heads that a Mac Pro desktop doesn't need to be the thinnest, lightest box full of the most exotic parts with corners engineered to within fractions of a millimeter. It just needs to: 1. Run macOS 2. be fast as hell 3. be quiet 4. be reasonably priced 5. be somewhat expandable on the inside with RAM and disks 6. have a variety of external ports 7. be spec-bumped at le…

Apple has trouble seeing themselves as sellers of commodity hardware like you describe - they never did, and there's a lot of pressure to innovate since Jobs left. Due to this, they try to innovate on form-factor, which is the aspect they have most control over the product design. The problem is that this is directly at odds with 4) price, 5) expandability and (to a certain extent) easy to 7) spec-bump every year. So…