Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

Post by _pmf_ » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 9:38 AM UTC

bflesch wrote: post #259

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Well, there is a huge difference between Europe and the US/Mexico: most people don't have guns. You will rarely see anybody with a weapon here. If you get attacked, it will be with fists, sometime a knife. Having the possibility that somebody pulls a gun on you is crazy to me, like something that should only happen in a movie.

Most people who are into doing criminal things actually have guns here in Europe. Our open borders allow people to drive a trunk full of guns from Turkish border directly to Berlin, and they regularly catch guys doing that. Only the people who get attacked don't have any guns, and they get fucked up.

Post by vetinari » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 9:50 AM UTC

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My very limited experience with Mexico City is that I'd treat it like many U.S. cities: it's fine, if you know which areas to avoid after dark, and which areas to avoid entirely. It is not like a safe European city center where you can go almost anywhere alone on foot at any time of day. But most U.S. cities don't fit that description either. And it's not at the other extreme that some people imagine, some kind of So…

Well, there is a huge difference between Europe and the US/Mexico: most people don't have guns. You will rarely see anybody with a weapon here. If you get attacked, it will be with fists, sometime a knife. Having the possibility that somebody pulls a gun on you is crazy to me, like something that should only happen in a movie.

Post by osullivj » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 9:57 AM UTC

vetinari wrote: post #273

sametmax wrote: post #249

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Well, there is a huge difference between Europe and the US/Mexico: most people don't have guns. You will rarely see anybody with a weapon here. If you get attacked, it will be with fists, sometime a knife. Having the possibility that somebody pulls a gun on you is crazy to me, like something that should only happen in a movie.

You would be surprised, how many guns are there in Europe[1]. However, if you carry gun, it must be hidden, otherwise you could lose your permit. Breaking law with legally held weapon is a rare thing (who would like lo lose it, right?). If someone breaks law with the gun, it will be illegal one. [1] Except Britain. They can legally have only long guns, without cartridges. Basically only for hunting.

Post by _pmf_ » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 10:18 AM UTC

vetinari wrote: post #274

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> Most people who are into doing criminal things actually have guns here in Europe. Speaking for the western part: no they don't. No even close to the majority of criminals have guns (I don't dispute that they have easy access, though). You'll be hard pressed to find street robberies at gun point in Germany, France and the northern countries.

You'll be hard pressed to find street robberies at gun point in Eastern Europe too. Subjectively, it is much safer to walk on the streets of Warsaw, than Berlin.

Post by dredmorbius » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 10:30 AM UTC

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This is why real journalist need to be protected regardless where you stand on the issues. It's a pillar of democracy for a very important reason.

Minor nit: where I live, we have freedom of the press. We do not have a special class of people called journalists. You have the right to publish anything you like without fear of retribution from the government or anybody else. This, along with the freedom to assemble, allows minority opinions to flourish through peaceful persuasion. It also allows sunlight into actions of criminals and the government. The crime aga…