Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

nytimes.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 435 posts

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#181

Post by seppin »

komali2 wrote: post #74
itsmemattchung wrote: post #7

> The committee reported that since 1992, 38 journalists have been killed with the motives for the slayings confirmed as reprisals for their work. Based on that figure, the group ranked Mexico as No. 11 of the 20 deadliest countries for journalists. I cannot imagine living in a country where posting something online, like a silly blog post, risks my life.

Are you sure? Any American that's written something controversial inevitably will tell the story of the death threats they received after. JK Rowling got them for writing about child wizards. Planned Parenthood supporters get them. Trump electors have gotten them. Kim Kardashian (ugh) got them for a tweet supporting Israel. It's easy to find lists of Americans that have received death threats, but much harder to find…

> but much harder to find Americans actually killed because of their silly posts

can you name one?

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#183

Post by franzen »

Cyph0n wrote: post #173
_delirium wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My very limited experience with Mexico City is that I'd treat it like many U.S. cities: it's fine, if you know which areas to avoid after dark, and which areas to avoid entirely. It is not like a safe European city center where you can go almost anywhere alone on foot at any time of day. But most U.S. cities don't fit that description either. And it's not at the other extreme that some people imagine, some kind of So…

If you want to see truly safe cities, even by EU standards, check out Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, or Doha.

Or Montreal!

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#184

Post by dingo_bat »

yincrash wrote: post #179
Cyph0n wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to see truly safe cities, even by EU standards, check out Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, or Doha.

With the exception of Hong Kong, aren't these all pretty authoritarian states?

Didn't Hong Kong pass over to China about a decade ago?

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#185

Post by wonderous »

tracker1 wrote: post #80

I'm curious if any of the reporters will continue their work for foreign news agencies under pseudonyms to protect their local identity.

Someone would rat them out, a source would be discovered and give them away, they'd out themselves for ego, make a fatal operational security error, etc.

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#186

Post by cookiecaper »

enraged_camel wrote: post #111
2_listerine_pls wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surprisingly simple to locate the plantations using LIDAR + spectrometry. Even easier in Afghanistan, where fields are cultivated in the open. It's so well documented that the UNDOC provides an anual report with the amount in acres. I could go on, but this is enough to make one wonder why they aren't being stopped.

>>Insatiable drug appetite is a constant Says who?

So I'm by no means pro-drug, and I agree that most people who say "it's impossible to fix because we haven't fixed it yet" lack imagination, but there is absolutely some fishy stuff going on with drug policy.

What we are doing now is broken, has been broken, and everyone knows it's broken. There are hidden motives here, no doubt. Corruption is a very real thing and there are a lot of people with a lot at stake regarding drug policy.

The most important thing to successful drug prohibition and treatment is a semi-controllable grey market.

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#187

Post by triplesec »

yincrash wrote: post #179
Cyph0n wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to see truly safe cities, even by EU standards, check out Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, or Doha.

With the exception of Hong Kong, aren't these all pretty authoritarian states?

unfortunately, Hong Kong is turning authoritarian too, with only a semblance of democracy under the iron thumb of Beijing.

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#188

Post by kbenson »

tedunangst wrote: post #166
kbenson wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This comment contains instructions on how to find the desired source of my original comment which was actually published and publicized in printed media. Then why is it so hard to include it yourself? It's poor form to make statements from sources and omit those sources. Unless you typed that from memory, you had one of those sources handy when you made the comment, so you could have included it easily, rather than…

I've always been kind of curious how the people who fill threads with quotes work. Do they have macro hot keys? A spreadsheet of quotes? (In some cases, the first google result for a quote is a page explaining that the quote is fake, so either they have some system that avoids google or they just ignore results they don't like.)

I've always wondered that as well, not being one that remembers quotable material in enough detail to be able to put it into use easily in most cases.

For myself, usually I remember someone said something in a vague way that I think it relevant (often a prior HN submission of some sort), and I start using google and hn.algolia.com to start looking stuff up until I find the article. comment or submission I thought I remembered or I give up. My quotes are generally less quotes and more notes about what I think are interesting references to the discussion at hand. I imagine if even only one out of fifty people reading do that for the whole submission, it still might add up rather quickly.

Of the things I do reference, I generally find I'm likely to use them multiple times over a few months. As things are in recent memory, I see more connections. Sort of like after you learn a new concept you see places to use it all over. It feels like it's just topical all of a sudden, but I suspect it's mostly just that prior to learning it those times weren't strong enough to leave an impression in memory, making it feel like you didn't hear about it before when actually you did.

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#189

Post by douche »

_delirium wrote: post #110
telesilla wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My friends are thinkers and challengers of the system: it's for them I am more worried, that they can't speak freely. I could move to Condesa and live a protected life, but that's just colonialism (using my spending power to put a cocoon around me with Uber and private parties). That's not the México I'm interested in. I've also been mugged rather violently there anyway on Calle Amsterdam, (though no worse than Barce…

My very limited experience with Mexico City is that I'd treat it like many U.S. cities: it's fine, if you know which areas to avoid after dark, and which areas to avoid entirely. It is not like a safe European city center where you can go almost anywhere alone on foot at any time of day. But most U.S. cities don't fit that description either. And it's not at the other extreme that some people imagine, some kind of So…

This is why I prefer to live in parts of the US that resemble the demographics of most European city centers. It turns out that tends to be kind of a demographic optimum...

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

#190

Post by cookiecaper »

aianus wrote: post #176
komali2 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't yet seen data that hate crimes are on the rise, just that media coverage of them is (in America). That... doesn't really seem like a bad thing to me. Getting these heinous crimes in the light seems like it could do only good (or horribly backfire, I suppose). >Police regularly shoot black people I don't see a correlation between this and an increase in hate speech. Or really, even, evidence that police shoo…

I assume he wants to solve climate change by criminalizing climate change denial like holocaust denial is in Germany. Pretty absurd.

Indeed. The founder of Greenpeace, a PhD in Ecology, is a "climate change" skeptic. Or maybe he just thinks it's better for trees if the oceans destroy our coastal cities? Not really clear here, but the point is, he disagrees with the prevailing line of thought. :P [0]

I have done very little research on climate change and have nothing to discuss with reference to the matter, but the suggestion that such a person should not be allowed to express his views because they violate the narrative pushed by the corporate media is absurd.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalis...

Post reply on HN