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Yes. You need to have the Amazon Go app installed on your phone, and you scan your phone at what looks like a turnstile to enter the store, from the store's PR videos. Then the store keeps track of what you pick up using computer vision, your phone and various sensors, and charges everything you walk out with to your account. Unless you can avoid the requirement to load an app and scan it to get into the store, walki…
So children are not allowed in the store? What's stopping someone from just stuffing their kid full of high end goods and asking them to wait in the car?
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how exactly is someone charged when they don't have an amazon account / connected phone / whatever method of payment is being used here? are you saying you need to swipe your card on the way in?
Yes. You need to have the Amazon Go app installed on your phone, and you scan your phone at what looks like a turnstile to enter the store, from the store's PR videos. Then the store keeps track of what you pick up using computer vision, your phone and various sensors, and charges everything you walk out with to your account. Unless you can avoid the requirement to load an app and scan it to get into the store, walki…
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So children are not allowed in the store? What's stopping someone from just stuffing their kid full of high end goods and asking them to wait in the car?
The same thing that stops people from doing that in a regular store? Mostly good morals backed up with cameras and the occasional security guard.
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I can already foresee a dozen people showing up in zebra-striped hoodies to see what happens when they shop together.
Amazon will counter by convincing third parties to resell their goods on the shelf. Amazon takes their cut of sales, but doesn't chip in on losses or fraud. Oh wait...
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#47All it takes is a loss factor of a few percent, and the entire model breaks down. This is the same reason that long-range RFID (UHF RFID) never worked for cashierless checkout too. You couldn't ensure 100% coverage. Some tags just couldn't be read -- either due to adversarial tactics (eg. shielding with your body) or material properties (eg. metal) -- and the engineering countermeasures to overcome these challenges m…
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#48All it takes is a loss factor of a few percent, and the entire model breaks down. This is the same reason that long-range RFID (UHF RFID) never worked for cashierless checkout too. You couldn't ensure 100% coverage. Some tags just couldn't be read -- either due to adversarial tactics (eg. shielding with your body) or material properties (eg. metal) -- and the engineering countermeasures to overcome these challenges m…
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Yes. You need to have the Amazon Go app installed on your phone, and you scan your phone at what looks like a turnstile to enter the store, from the store's PR videos. Then the store keeps track of what you pick up using computer vision, your phone and various sensors, and charges everything you walk out with to your account. Unless you can avoid the requirement to load an app and scan it to get into the store, walki…
What about using worthless phones and masks? For under $5 I can get an Android or a dozen of them, load them up with this app, and be good to go. Need a credit card? No trouble, get a prepaid card for $1.95 at the corner store, load 5 dollars on it, auth it with the Amazon account, and pull $4.99 off it. Then go get some steaks on the house!
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What about using worthless phones and masks? For under $5 I can get an Android or a dozen of them, load them up with this app, and be good to go. Need a credit card? No trouble, get a prepaid card for $1.95 at the corner store, load 5 dollars on it, auth it with the Amazon account, and pull $4.99 off it. Then go get some steaks on the house!
There's nobody guarding the doors at the average grocery store. You can walk in and walk out with a steak without anyone stopping you, and without having to buy prepaid debit cards and make online accounts in advance. Far fewer tracks to cover. They also don't have every square inch of the store covered in face-detecting cameras, like Amazon's store, making pretty much anywhere else a better target once you're set on…
Booster bags will be a major issue for Amazon's stores if they ever launch this.