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Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by bryanh »

rhcom2 wrote: post #132
jzymbaluk wrote: post #101

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I definitely spend a lot of my entertainment time watching youtube. I really agree what you're saying as far as big content creators not offering much substance to their videos, but it's wrong to think that the "big youtubers" are the only ones making things on Youtube. I have my subscriptions filled with some pretty amazing smaller youtubers who are making great, cerebral content all the time. I'm more interested in…

Primitive Technology - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA has been my favorite recently. Hits the engineering and problem solving part of my brain but is also weirdly very meditative without any talking.

Be sure to turn on the subtitles - he narrates through CC what he is doing which is often very interesting.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by fgandiya »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #54

Does Google's YouTube group host a line of communication between its product managers and content producers? Is there a service agreement between Google and its content producers around features and site behavior that will impact viewers and paychecks? If not, then content producers are simply in a bad long-term position and they need to start looking for leverage against it, whether it's taking their subscribers els…

YouTube has a lot of flack for not communicating well with creators. Things only get done if lots of pans are run when the creator makes a video on how limited the channels of communication are with YouTube.

I remember Eli the Computer guy talking about how he got two community strikes on some really old videos and couldn't really appeal (I don't think they supported it at the time) it. It wasn't until he made enough noise that he was finally able to get a rep from YouTube.

YouTube is a good platform and I can't think of any competitors as good as YT, but they really need to improve communication with the creators.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by miguelrochefort »

Jdam wrote: post #88
basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I really don't spend more than 10 hours a year watching Youtube. 27yo.

I spend 3 hours a day watching YouTube videos... 25yo

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by tyleraldrich »

fein wrote: post #64
ForRealsies wrote: post #17

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Has JonTron's popularity gone down? I don't follow any of it, I just heard he was dropping red pills. Which is more than I heard of him before.

How far we've come that citing common statistics counts as dropping red pills. I don't have high hopes for how we look back on this period a few years into the future. Many people with their head stuck in the sand.

And I fear your head may be the deepest.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by witty_username »

nailer wrote: post #72
jrkatz wrote: post #49

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If 'Death to all jews' -- let's not talk around it, that's what was written on the sign -- wasn't the crux of the joke, why didn't he go with something equally likely to be rejected by people who understand English, but less 'Death to all jews'? Frankly, I think it's because he's a moron who doesn't understand that actions and words, however digital and remote, have consequences. Now middle school kids can chortle to…

> why didn't he go with something equally likely to be rejected by people who understand English, but less 'Death to all jews'? He did. See the other people on fiverr he got to do other, stupid things. You did actually watch the video, right? > likely to be rejected by people who understand English They understand English perfectly - their email replies discussing the task were about the same level of English as spok…

How is Pewdiepie exploiting poor people? The poor people agreed to it and they objectively benefited.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by jimmyk »

jrkatz wrote: post #65
Neliquat wrote: post #47

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With all respect, it is the parents responsibility, not youtube or jontron, to make sure their little angel is not drinking in racist rants.

For an extreme example, suppose stormfront camps outside your child's school passing out leaflets and having fun, racist singalongs. How can it be your responsibility when they're in an area that is effectively outside your control? Sure, once you find out about it you can pull them from school but this requires first that you find out about it, which you may not be able to do until they come home singing the 14 word…

Why are you worried that your children will be threatened for their heritage in a world where children can be exposed to a diversity of opinion, including those you don't approve of? Do you think you'll lose the war of ideas to "bullshit"?

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by 6stringmerc »

KirinDave wrote: post #92

Okay, so... occasionally it comes up that I experimented with being a gaming youtuber as a way to escape some of the difficulties I was having with the SV ecosystem. I worked hard, I connected with other famous Youtubers, and bam, I was profitable (sorta) and producing content. Everything in this article about a capricious Youtube is true. Everything in this article about the underappreciated difficulty of producing…

You're so right that the modern price of fame / celebrity attention is such a minefield. There used to be misguided or mentally unstable folks who would stalk or take things too far, but I think the amount of power modern tech / networks can be deployed for purposes of, well, being mean online has more real world affects than at first.

What I'm saying is that far too frequently by the time a young person who craves fame gets it, they're naive on how the system might chew them up and spit them out, and just as they're getting some valuable experience, their time has passed and they're forgotten to the sands of other failed acts.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by [deleted] »

geofft wrote: post #153
nilkn wrote: post #144

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Your opinions have consequences. They can affect other people in real ways. In this case, the imprecise, incredibly untrustworthy outrage of thousands of people -- fueled by a sensationalist media hit job -- almost ruined someone's career. You're welcome to your opinion. But you also have to take responsibility for it.

> almost ruined someone's career There are countless millions of people with no careers at all. Clearly, our society doesn't believe in a right to having a career at all , let alone a right to keeping one's existing career. If we're worried about the threat to PewDiePie's ability to make a living, to his life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, it seems like the fundamental problem is not with people on the internet…

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Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by Mithaldu »

blhack wrote: post #115
and0 wrote: post #29

Went into the article expecting it to be silly, but there were actually a ton of interesting insights, especially about how no one knows how to manage these celebrities. Also, slowbeef is being humble; he literally invented the LP and curated the scene forever ago. His Metal Gear 2 annotated playthrough (from the mid-00s at the latest, I'm remembering HTML tables) was absolutely hysterical (at least to my teenage sel…

To anyone who was initially confused here, "LP" means "Let's play" (watch somebody play videogames), not "Long Play" (record). I didn't think I was that old...

There is ALSO a Long Play category for games, which is videos that do a full play through of a game with zero commentary, and in as few segments as possible. (Many longplays are just one video.)
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