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Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by striking »

Raknarg wrote: post #19
minimaxir wrote: post #13

It's worth nothing that this article was posted a month ago: since then, there was another incident along the same lines where popular YouTuber JonTron imploded for the same reasons as described in the article. Jim Sterling has the most objective take on the sequence of events: http://www.thejimquisition.com/youtubers-say-the-darndest-th...

JonTron isn't going to lose his subscriberbase from this though... I doubt most of them care. Personally I don't really, mostly because his personal views never come into play on his actual show. This kind of thing always happens when you get someone involved in comedy to participate in a serious discussion, you start realizing they have opinions and views that you may not like.

Otherwise stated as "don't meet your heroes."

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by pm90 »

Raknarg wrote: post #19
minimaxir wrote: post #13

It's worth nothing that this article was posted a month ago: since then, there was another incident along the same lines where popular YouTuber JonTron imploded for the same reasons as described in the article. Jim Sterling has the most objective take on the sequence of events: http://www.thejimquisition.com/youtubers-say-the-darndest-th...

JonTron isn't going to lose his subscriberbase from this though... I doubt most of them care. Personally I don't really, mostly because his personal views never come into play on his actual show. This kind of thing always happens when you get someone involved in comedy to participate in a serious discussion, you start realizing they have opinions and views that you may not like.

Even if his subscribers are not affected, his reputations certainly is. Frankly, I have no idea how these people make money/ make a living but their prospects for media endorsement (at least by mainstream companies) is effectively dead.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by nailer »

jrkatz wrote: post #31
krige wrote: post #4

It's not implosion, it's just the outrage crowd setting their sights on a new target and gaming sites trying to settle score with the new media.

'outrage crowd'. Huh. right now, the big blowup is over some guy ('jontron') spouting racist BS. This is bad enough in front of an adult audience, but in fact he is performing this for children. Shouldn't we be mad? For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children, who might not follow the joke were it funny. When they don't follow it, when it's…

> For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children,

What? Pewdiepie was seeing what people would do at fiverr for five dollars. Most of the jokes were him being rejected. The joke is very clearly not at the expense of Jewish people any more than, say, Nazis doing stupid things in Indiana Jones movies is.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by djrogers »

greenhatman wrote: post #27

Probably a lot of PewDiePie's appeal is his uncensoredness. It's just unfiltered non-sense for the most part. Some people can't deal with it. But a lot of people want it. Personally, I think that's why I love Dave Chappelle so much. He seems to be able to get away with a lot as well. Few things relaxes me like someone making jokes with no filters.

Don't mistake uncensored for unfiltered - Dave Chappelle probably writes and tells a joke a hundred times before you ever hear it, and it gets filtered through a LOT during that time.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by pm90 »

raesene6 wrote: post #39

I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…

> "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."

I really don't think what he did was "honest" i.e. not meant to be provocative. As many sibling comments have pointed out, if you're making a living as a public personality, you kinda have to accept a higher level of scrutiny simply in order to avoid media hit jobs.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by Neliquat »

jrkatz wrote: post #31
krige wrote: post #4

It's not implosion, it's just the outrage crowd setting their sights on a new target and gaming sites trying to settle score with the new media.

'outrage crowd'. Huh. right now, the big blowup is over some guy ('jontron') spouting racist BS. This is bad enough in front of an adult audience, but in fact he is performing this for children. Shouldn't we be mad? For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children, who might not follow the joke were it funny. When they don't follow it, when it's…

With all respect, it is the parents responsibility, not youtube or jontron, to make sure their little angel is not drinking in racist rants.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by nommm-nommm »

Eh....this may be an unpopular opinion but this article is supposed to make me feel really bad for the self imposed "workload" of Pewdiepie. Boo hoo, he's so disadvantaged... he made, from my quick research, something like $15 million last year alone. If $15 MILLION salary isn't enough for you that you have to keep "pushing the envelope" being "edgier" for more and more attention then I think you're probably being greedy and shouldn't really be surprised when you finally push it too far.

Maybe I'm the asshole, but I just can't muster up sympathy to empathize with the plight of someone who makes millions of dollars playing video games and making off color remarks.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by jrkatz »

nailer wrote: post #44
jrkatz wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'outrage crowd'. Huh. right now, the big blowup is over some guy ('jontron') spouting racist BS. This is bad enough in front of an adult audience, but in fact he is performing this for children. Shouldn't we be mad? For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children, who might not follow the joke were it funny. When they don't follow it, when it's…

> For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children, What? Pewdiepie was seeing what people would do at fiverr for five dollars. Most of the jokes were him being rejected. The joke is very clearly not at the expense of Jewish people any more than, say, Nazis doing stupid things in Indiana Jones movies is.

If 'Death to all jews' -- let's not talk around it, that's what was written on the sign -- wasn't the crux of the joke, why didn't he go with something equally likely to be rejected by people who understand English, but less 'Death to all jews'? Frankly, I think it's because he's a moron who doesn't understand that actions and words, however digital and remote, have consequences. Now middle school kids can chortle together on the playground, "haha, 'death to all jews', that sure was funny". After all, the life or death of a Jew, that's just a punchline.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by [deleted] »

jrkatz wrote: post #31
krige wrote: post #4

It's not implosion, it's just the outrage crowd setting their sights on a new target and gaming sites trying to settle score with the new media.

'outrage crowd'. Huh. right now, the big blowup is over some guy ('jontron') spouting racist BS. This is bad enough in front of an adult audience, but in fact he is performing this for children. Shouldn't we be mad? For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children, who might not follow the joke were it funny. When they don't follow it, when it's…

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