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Immediately googled "9.7 inch in cm" because it's hard to imagine size in proprietary units used in only one country. But then encountered "1 lb., 7.5 mm" on the website. That's unit trolling. They should've used megahartleys per decimal second for LTE speed.

I live in a metric country and screen sizes are in inches, the other measures have their metric size in parenthesis, I would googled the 9.4 inches high, but not the 9.7 screen.

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There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

There's also the 3G, 3GS, 4S, 5S, 5C, 6S, 6 Plus, 6S Plus

Looking back, there were always non-descriptive names, and inconsistencies.

I'd argue that not knowing what 'Android' is actually demonstrates the technology has reached its goal of being universal. It's implicit instead of explicit. People buy it without needing to know what it is. Why would most consumers care about the name of an operating system? It's unimportant. It's not like I remember the exact model of my TV or car, the important thing is that I can watch one and drive the other.

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Sure, but he cut stuff like printers, cameras, and other crazy crap they used to make. Even when he was still alive they had different-sized iPods, iPads, and more. Computers have always come in different sizes: 13", 15", and 17". What is the difference between a 13" and a 15"? Does it make it harder to buy? Perhaps, but you wouldn't kill the 15" just so people don't get confused.

I think the point is that the difference between 13", 15" and 17" laptops is easily grasped by even the least knowledgeable customer. It takes no time to figure which product fits your needs best. The difference between the 9.7" iPad and the 9.7" iPad pro is not intuitive, at least to me. If it is not obvious how different products serve different needs, then you aren't actually expanding the market your product appe…

The important difference is that “pro” supports the stylus, while “non-pro” does not.

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Also, no Pencil support Does anyone know is there is a hardware reason that the normal iPad can't use the Pencil or is purely a software thing to make people buy the more expensive iPad Pro.

I'm not super knowledgeable about this so take this with a grain of salt. Some of this might be wrong. Good modern touch screens, like the iPhone/iPad/Macbook trackpad are capacitive touch screens. An array of sensors emit a changing electric field which is affected by the dielectric constant of nearby materials, and fingers have a different dielectric constant from air. Capacitive sensors cannot detect pressure (alt…

The Pro screen is a little different too. The iPad Pro doubles the motion detection to 240hz when there is any kind of touching going on, which reduces the latency when drawing. My understanding is that this significantly adds to the cost of the hardware, and is why we don't have Pencil support across the entire line.

I thought that the Pencil does not use a radio a la the Wacom, and is purely Bluetooth, but I can't find any source to back that up so I could be mistaken.

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I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

it's become very hard to justify getting a new iPad over something like the surface.

The cheapest iPad is less than half the price of the cheapest surface, and if you only need the iPad features then the surface is really expensive.

edit: Seems you can still get the old Surface 3, which only costs a bit more than an iPad.

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Plus the iPad Mini 7.9". As a 9.7 Pro owner, the differences between the 9.7 Pro and the regular iPad are quite important. I just wish they made the comparison easier, though.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/ I think that's pretty good comparison. Reminds me of iPhone SE - make a product from older tech, where all manufacturing is cheap and smooth as ever and sell it as cheapest option (I imagine with still veeery big markup).

It is, yes — good point.

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So the 128Gb iPad Mini 4 has a smaller screen and a slower chip than the new 128Gb, but it's only £10 cheaper?

It is hard to see Apple keeping the mini around for much longer. I assume they are simply running down stock and will remove it soon, before end of the year.

I doubt it. The Mini is a great tablet for little kids. It's just the right size for toddlers and they can still hold it even when you put an Otterbox Defender on it.

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Using an iPad (with external keyboard) to even type a simple document is an exercise in masochism. Fair play if you enjoyed it, but something like a Surface makes far more sense for these types of uses.

Trying to use a Surface keyboard on my lap on a train sounds awkward, the trains I use don't have tables. I even find laptops ungainly and sometimes I don't get a seat, but I can still do pretty much anything on an iPad. I think my error rate is a bit higher than when using a real keyboard, but the alternative would be not being productive during that time at all. I'm an old duffer though, I remember using CPM machin…

I do not own one myself, by I have seen people type on Surface keyboards on trains, with the Surface resting on their laps. It did not look awkward or uncomfortable.

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I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

The iPad stylus is amazing. Very noticeably lower latency and better accuracy than other tablets I tried.

If you want to use your device for taking notes, proofreading documents, writing in margins of PDFs, doodling, illustration, etc., then the “pro” iPad models are lovely.

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The pencil is what will probably push me into buying my first iPad. I've only played with it in the store, but Apple has done something pretty amazing with respect to palm rejection. I haven't really looked yet, but if there's an art class app that guides you through drawing exercises, I think I would take the leap.

Not an app but I found this awesome: http://drawabox.com/

That looks exactly like what I want. I never really researched it before because the last thing in the world that I need is another thing to dedicate time to.

I swear if I could afford to be retired today, I could keep myself busy for the rest of my life with stuff like this. My Dad retired a couple of years ago and I think he's bored much of the time. It drives me crazy.

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