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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by emdowling »

joestr87 wrote: post #90
berberous wrote: post #45

From a Reddit comment, in addition to the bump from a A8x to A9 chip: - It's as thick as the iPad Air 1 (and thus thicker than the Air 2/9.7" Pro). - No laminated display (and no AR coating, True Tone, or wide color). - Air 2 quality camera. - The iPad mini 4 is now only available in 128GB, at $399. - The chamfers look matte, like the iPhone SE. Also, no Pencil support or smart connector.

So the 128Gb iPad Mini 4 has a smaller screen and a slower chip than the new 128Gb, but it's only £10 cheaper?

It is hard to see Apple keeping the mini around for much longer. I assume they are simply running down stock and will remove it soon, before end of the year.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by waderyan »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I don't disagree with the lesson, but does it always apply? When Jobs came back Apple was in a different place than it is today.

To your second point, I completely agree. Regardless of the need to focus, causing confusion to consumers doesn't seem the right thing to do.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by marvindanig »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Also there was reason why Steve Jobs was against all tablet sizes except one. At the time Apple was going after revolutionizing the education market and the 9.7" iPad1/2 fit the bill for that purpose exactly. Then came the iPad mini whose sole purpose was to increase business bottom-line… and then a few more models based on other focuses or potential uses. Meh.

Moral of story: Do not destroy the initial momentum and the sense of denting the world. "To be a part of revolutionary change" is an important feeling to keep in tech industry.

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Wish I could impress upon them about the urgency to kill all models except the iPad Air (9"). Anything else will only kill/subdue the category and lead the focus away from the initial promise that the tablets held -- i.e. disrupt education.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by mikeash »

constantlm wrote: post #11

Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

Unless the people you know are somehow representative of the userbase as a whole, this doesn't really mean anything.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by giarc »

apricot wrote: post #98
aikorevs wrote: post #2

Could not find what's new. Any hints ?

"Could not find what's new. Any hints ?" This sums up Apple's problems better than anything I've seen.

It's because their naming conventions have gone out the window.

When it was iPhone 4, 4S, 5, 5S you knew where on the product timeline your phone was. Now it's iPad Air, Air 2, 9.7 Pro, 9.7, 12.9 Pro, mini 4. It's all over the place.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by kilon »

constantlm wrote: post #11

Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

My iPad mini I use for watching videos and video tutorials and reading PDF documents and of course surfing the web . I play games on it but it's definetly not a toy for me.

I don't like working on laptops and mobile devices , I am more than happy working on an iMac with a gorgeous 27 monitor , a real keyboard , mouse and Wacom.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by doodyhead »

criddell wrote: post #111
throwanem wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, in my case, a YouTube player comfortable enough to use in bed. I had such plans - a laptop replacement, a smart drawing and writing tablet, a conveniently portable development tool...none of which came to fruition, because the technology wasn't yet there. I'm a little tempted, now, by the iPad Pro and the Pencil. It sure would be more comfortable and convenient to retouch photos that way than with a mouse or a tr…

The pencil is what will probably push me into buying my first iPad. I've only played with it in the store, but Apple has done something pretty amazing with respect to palm rejection. I haven't really looked yet, but if there's an art class app that guides you through drawing exercises, I think I would take the leap.

Not an app but I found this awesome: http://drawabox.com/

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by larsnystrom »

jontro wrote: post #87
snowwrestler wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours is the first note I've seen that palms are causing problems on the trackpad. The reviews, and folks I know who have one, seem to give the "palm rejection" high praise.

I had problems with this until I disabled "Tap to click". It's disabled by default so maybe that's why it hasn't been widely noticed yet.

I ordered my first ever MBP last week (it should arrive this Friday) but I'm really worried about these palm rejection issues I've been hearing about. Is the touch pad ok even though you disabled tap to click? It just seems very unergonomical to select text, drag, etc, but maybe force touch makes it better?

I've always had issues with the palm rejection on my current computer (ASUS/Ubuntu), and only managed to live with it by disabling the touch pad and using an external mouse. If the palm rejection turns out to be a problem on the new MBP I'll return it. No way I'm paying that much for a computer I can't properly use to write code.

Not sure what other computer I should buy in that case though, if I want something running MacOS. I really, really want the MBP to be a great computer.

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