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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by icantdrive55 »

galdosdi wrote: post #598
pascalxus wrote: post #498

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But, this could also be quite positive for the bay area. By reducing the number of jobs, It might finally provide the housing relief the bay area so desperately needs.

If the bay area continues its absurd aversion to adding housing or transportation, some other cities are definitely going to eventually pick off all the jobs till the bay area looks like Detroit or 1970s New York. You can stay #1 just by already being #1, exploiting the chicken-and-egg problem, for a while, but not forever.

San Francisco provided good jobs way before the tech revolution.

I would bet they had better union jobs before tech moved in.

You could always live in the outlying areas to commute, and not spend all your money on rent.

Tech bosses decided they liked San Francisco, and the rich enclaves like Marin County.

They decided to set up shop, and hire like no tomorrow. I have never seen more money just thrown away, except in certain areas of government. This did make things worse for a lot of workers. I don't want to say blue collar workers because a lot of you fancy yourselfs as white collar. White collar will always be able to move across the county and find a new shiny job? The problem is your not really white collar. This bubble will end. All those frameworks you memorized will become useless. You will be eventually looking for a union job, or any job. Good luck.

Yes--San Francisco has always been a tough housing market. I think tech needs to worry about where they are going to move to when the current party is over. I'm for better transportation, and more low income housing. All I'm saying is the influx of tech workers did not make the Bay Area better for a lot of us. Tech moved fast and loud, and did disrupt life. It kicked out many with the Ellision Act. It added to traffic. Many displaced workers who didn't look like a young Bill Gates couldn't get that shiny new job. Even those that could probally do a good job.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by jessewmc »

mck- wrote: post #576
acchow wrote: post #537

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How will Vancouver improve its weather? California has a powerful draw...

Weather here is amazing! Vancouver has such a bad rep when it comes to rain, but honestly it's not that bad. Here's what it's really like: Between May and October, basically half of the year, you'll have very comfortable T-shirt weather, and blue skies I'd say 70% of the time! Between December and March it's gloomy, but you'll have awesome snow in the mountains, just 30 min from downtown :) from our office we can see…

The temperatures are very moderate in the winter, but the rain is bad. It can, and does, rain for multiple consecutive weeks in the winter. The lack of sun is even worse. It can have a very real effect on mood if you're from somewhere that gets more reasonable amounts of sunlight, which is pretty much anywhere else in Canada.

I lived there for four years and I had a very tough time with the lack of sun. It can be very oppressive. Vancouver has a lot of things going for it (as you mentioned) but I think it's unfair to gloss over the overcast weather.

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

komali2 wrote: post #528
Hydraulix989 wrote: post #344

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If you look at Trump's ACTUAL actions (denying re-entry to "permanent resident" green card holders, etc.), you'll see that even Trump makes this conflation himself. It's important to judge someone the most by what they do, and not just by what they say.

But it's also important to judge people by what they say, i.e. people saying "he doesn't actually grab women by the pussy, that's just locker-room talk."

"It's important to judge someone the most by what they do, and not _just_ by what they say." (emphasis: mine)

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Post by cortesoft »

tormeh wrote: post #551
jacquesm wrote: post #205

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52% income tax is only on income > 67K euros, below that it is tiered with the next level down being 40%. The wealth tax is subject to an exemption of the first 25K. Also important: there is no capital gains tax and healthcare costs are ~100 euros / month no matter what you earn.

No capital gains tax? Wow. So rich people in The Netherlands pay no taxes? Or is there a wealth tax?

1.2% according to the grandparent comment.

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Post by SilasX »

nostrademons wrote: post #606
SilasX wrote: post #590

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No. The numbers don't work. A typical apple picker (the most labor intense/apple part of the work) can do 1000 lb/hour [1] So even if you had to pay domestic workers $30/hour, and you could pay migrants nothing , that still only comes to charging 3 cents a pound more. Not $8. [1] Just an example, but others say the same: https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/jobs-making-money/side-gigs/...

It makes me wonder to what extent migrant labor features in the other parts of that apple's value chain, though. Much of the price of that apple comes from the farmhands who loaded the truck, the truckdriver who drove it, the gas that the truck burned, the warehouse that stored it, the shopkeeper that stocked it, and the cashier that sold it. I don't know the prevalence of migrant workers in each of those industries…

Only a few of those are labor cost issues, and most of those are not typically migrant labor (truck drivers and grocery employees). That leaves the truck loaders, which is much less work per apple than picking.

Point being, this "$10/lb" is extreme exaggeration.

Now, it's probably true that orchard owners would love the free 3 cents a pound (or 2, or 1). And they're not going to leave money on the table when others can get away with hiring cheaper illegal labor. But the idea that apples have to be that much more expensive is pushing it.

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Post by selimthegrim »

vineetch wrote: post #387
sremani wrote: post #372

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I will be upfront, this argument is bogus. #1. Academia and non-profits do get H1-Bs that are cap exempt #2. There are people who got jobs in FB et al. who did not win lotteries and went home. #3. A significant portion of the 85K are people working for "sweatshops", there are enough charts out there So, yes, its actually a good thing to return to the original intent of extra-ordinary talent.

If you know where to find these H1B "sweatshops" on US soil, please take those charts and company names to the Department of Labor and report the wage crime or occupational hazards you are implying with your hyperbole. Otherwise, your statements are deeply exaggerated. Here's a link to get you started: https://www.dol.gov/whd/howtofilecomplaint.htm

I will happily report the New Jersey based one that rang me up just because I had an Indian sounding last name.

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Post by tropo »

komali2 wrote: post #518
kolbe wrote: post #501

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I'm sure Cali would be able to leave, they just wouldn't be able to take their assets with them.

Outside oil and crops, California assets are people, yea? Engineers.

Here:

You get the entire Los Angeles basin. You get most of the Bay Area: the area served by BART, Berkeley, things west of Berkeley, and Marin County. You also get everything in the middle. Generally the border runs along the ridge of the coastal mountains.

The USA keeps San Diego, Eureka, Davis, Fresno, etc.

You get exclusive rights to the "California" name. The USA will split the leftover bits into at least 3 states.

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Post by sanguine234 »

komali2 wrote: post #516
fixxer wrote: post #512

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The flip side of that sentiment is calling fascism on anyone who thinks sanctuary cities are bullshit. The lunacy is bipartisan.

I could make a strong argument, however, that a government seeking to strip the ability of states (cities) to have "sanctuary status" is fascist, or at the very least not very republican.

No one is taking away sanctuary status. Commonsense people just do not want to pay billions for illegals healthcare, food, and other costs. And yes, after doing all that, live in cities infested with crime largely because of illegals.

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Post by c141charlie »

acchow wrote: post #537
curiousfiddler wrote: post #448

If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.

How will Vancouver improve its weather? California has a powerful draw...

Vancouver's climate/geography is a feature, not a bug. Mountain biking, climbing, and skiing in Vancouver is amazing. And you don't have to drive two or three hours to get there. It's literally right outside your front door. This will be a draw for outdoorsy types.

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Post by esrauch »

pragone wrote: post #594
bermanoid wrote: post #587

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If you grew up on the east coast, where you have about 1 week of pleasant weather in between hellish hotness in the summer and ball-shriveling cold in the winter, you'd appreciate SF's boringly middling weather. I do miss the snow, but that's what Tahoe is for.

I did grow up on the east coast, and have, so far, lived my whole life here. I would never describe the summers as "hellish" nor the winters as "ball-shriveling". I thoroughly enjoy the tremendous variety through all the seasons. I would say there isn't "1 week of pleasant weather", but rather, a year of tremendously varying, enjoyable weather. But, of course, that's sort of the point - to each their own.

I think he meant NY or New England when he said East Coast. North Carolina doesn't fit that pattern of having consistent 0°F to 105°F range every year.
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