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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by komali2 »

err4nt wrote: post #455
illumin8 wrote: post #383

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My grandfather owned many apple orchards, and he said without migrant labor, he would have had to go out of business years ago. He could not hire US citizens as workers because nobody that is born here wants to climb trees all day picking fruit for minimum wage. This was back in the 80s. He also had very good things to say about how hard-working and dedicated the migrant workers were. Now, you might argue that withou…

> He could not hire US citizens as workers because nobody that is born here wants to climb trees all day picking fruit for minimum wage. Then he may have to pay over minimum wage!

Then he would have to charge 10$/apple at the store, his follow-up point.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by Kluny »

Tiktaalik wrote: post #505
mediocrejoker wrote: post #451

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Vancouver's prices are high but they are not SF-high. If you mean housing cost relative to salary, however, that's perhaps a different story.

The average price of a detached home in Metro Vancouver (includes suburbs of Vancouver) in February was $1.76 million. That's down from $1.82 million a year earlier. 99.7% of properties in the City of Vancouver proper are valued at more than $1 million. The average price for a detached home in the City of Vancouver in 2016 was $2.77 million. I've had some trouble finding closely comparable values but it seems like th…

Are you only counting detached homes? There are very few of those in Vancouver proper. If there are any, they are mansions. Do the same comparison with condos? And apartments?

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Post by pizzetta »

nostrademons wrote: post #482
pizzetta wrote: post #409

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Modernization? Do you think it's likely he'll be more interventionist than the Obama years? It's hard to imagine that, but of course it's possible, the question is is it likely?

Obama was actually very restrained in foreign policy - far moreso than Hillary Clinton would've been, for example, and also moreso than Bush Jr., Reagan, or even Bill Clinton. He's relied largely on drone strikes and covert assistance, while the other presidents mentioned actually invaded other countries. Obama's own national security staff criticized him heavily for this. Anyway, I didn't mention political parties i…

I don't mean to take it into the ideological realm. I can't disagree with what you said, except the money spent on foreign wars/intervention was pretty ramped up during Bush II and Obama.

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Post by throw_away_777 »

Swizec wrote: post #390
throw_away_777 wrote: post #350

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US citizens pay taxes, contribute to US companies and make the US more powerful. US citizens also contribute a higher percentage of their income to local communities than immigrants do. It is a myth that their is an infinite supply of jobs, and that supply/demand somehow doesn't apply to immigration. You aren't really making an argument either.

> US citizens also contribute a higher percentage of their income to local communities than immigrants do I don't know, man. The state of California and the federal government take their rightful 38% share from my income. I'm not a citizen. My girlfriend also pays her rightful 38% share of income. She is a citizen. And my income is a bit higher so in absolute terms I contribute more as an immigrant than my girlfriend…

I didn't mean in taxes, I meant that immigrants often send money home or buy from their native country, for instance when on vacation etc.

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Post by jpttsn »

mikeash wrote: post #208
ruleabidinguser wrote: post #187

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>Given that this was the administration's attempt to implement a ban on Muslims entering the country This is an inflammatory comment, and not a given. > When insane people are in power, anything is possible Also inflammatory. >Maybe some big attack is carried out by a radicalized Muslim from France or Sweden, and the response is to ban entries from there. I'd have called this idea absurd not too long ago, but now I c…

Trump spent his campaign talking about banning Muslims. Rudy Giuliani is on record saying that the original order happened because Trump asked him to implement the "Muslim ban" legally. Personally, I'm willing to believe the people involved when they state their goals and motivations, and I don't think that quoting administration insiders is reasonably described as "inflammatory." Describing them as "insane" I'll gra…

Curious: Do you think Hillary Clinton is still at risk of being jailed? I mean, do you generally believe campaign promises, or do you selectively believe them?

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Post by ultimoo »

slim wrote: post #226
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #116

Great intent. I'd like to know the reasoning behind choosing Canada as an alternative interview location because from experience, it easier to get a US visitor visa than that of Canada. Nigerians cannot even transit the Canadian airport without a visa which takes upward of 8 weeks to get AFTER approval vs days for the US. Requirements for Canada are more onerous. 2 suggestions. 1. A country of interview per continent…

Which makes me wonder what are the most open countries? Ie. Requiring the least visas.. Is there a country requiring no visa?

Not sure whether I know of countries that require no Visa. As far as most open countries go -- Thailand, Singapore, Hongkong come to mind.

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Post by acchow »

curiousfiddler wrote: post #448

If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.

How will Vancouver improve its weather?

California has a powerful draw...

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Post by bbcbasic »

curiousfiddler wrote: post #448

If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.

> If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere.

While I am not certain how true this is in general, it is for me anecdotally. I have no intention of wanting to emigrate and work in SF based on what I have learned on HN. I like the idea of choosing a city based on what i want from that city then doing what I want to do there. Not living somewhere for a one dimensional 'job opportunity' and otherwise hating it.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

Kluny wrote: post #532
Tiktaalik wrote: post #505

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The average price of a detached home in Metro Vancouver (includes suburbs of Vancouver) in February was $1.76 million. That's down from $1.82 million a year earlier. 99.7% of properties in the City of Vancouver proper are valued at more than $1 million. The average price for a detached home in the City of Vancouver in 2016 was $2.77 million. I've had some trouble finding closely comparable values but it seems like th…

Are you only counting detached homes? There are very few of those in Vancouver proper. If there are any, they are mansions. Do the same comparison with condos? And apartments?

No you are very incorrect. 81% of the land area of the City of Vancouver is zoned for detached homes and most of these are simple, cheap post war houses or cheap 60s era "Vancouver Specials."

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Post by jpttsn »

h4nkoslo wrote: post #473
fennecfoxen wrote: post #459

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I like the way your world-view treats intelligent people. Instead of having them being independent agents, there's some form of ownership of them... such that if they head off to foreign lands to pursue what they feel is a better life and earn more money, then it's a theft of community property. All Sudanese should be happy with their lot in life and either work to improve it or rot . So how dare these Western compan…

The disturbance you feel is likely at least partly cognitive dissonance at the idea of open borders amounting to labor colonialism. It's an interesting idea, wouldn't you say? What are the effects of ensuring Sudan or wherever is unable to maintain a functional local elite? Are they good or bad, on balance? If we strip-mine all of their potentially capable administrators, do we have an obligation to administer their…

Oh good I thought it was novel. I guess individuals have nothing to worry about, as long as the idea is ancient.
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