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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by dragonwriter »

astrodust wrote: post #552
dragonwriter wrote: post #480

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> Calexit would allow California to bring in anyone they want though In the same way that secession allowed the Confederacy to do that. The US has no equivalent of the EU's Article 50, and until it does, "Calexit" means a war that California is in no position to win.

It might not mean war if the country itself has given up on sticking it out. Maybe it'll be an ugly divorce instead.

It would be a war within California. The Central Valley isn't going to willingly leave the U.S. to be ruled by what they see as liberal coastal elites with no counterweight.

And because of that (and the leverage the central government would have because of that), there'll be no peaceful divorce of California from the Union.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by acchow »

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #578
pragone wrote: post #570

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Literally one of the things I hated the most when I visited California and all I hear about California is the weather (I should say, "San Francisco", not CA, since obviously CA is a pretty big state). I can't imagine what living somewhere that is the same every day.

Except Vancouver IS also the same every day: dark, gloomy, overcast clouds with constant rain or drizzle. I lived in Seattle for a year, and I got depressed from the weather. My doctor handed me a huge bottle of Vitamin D to take, saying most of her patients that lived there are deficient. I couldn't handle it, so I moved back to sunny California, and immediately, my happiness levels returned back to normal again. Hu…

100x this. I get a lot of energy and happiness walking in the sun in the morning. Something so simple, yet has a dramatic effect on my quality of life.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by astrodust »

dragonwriter wrote: post #581
astrodust wrote: post #552

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It might not mean war if the country itself has given up on sticking it out. Maybe it'll be an ugly divorce instead.

It would be a war within California. The Central Valley isn't going to willingly leave the U.S. to be ruled by what they see as liberal coastal elites with no counterweight. And because of that (and the leverage the central government would have because of that), there'll be no peaceful divorce of California from the Union.

Considering the demographics of California, nobody really lives there, so that "war" would be short if such a thing were to occur.

If California does split it'll probably just employ a live-and-let-live policy with their wild eastern frontier. Leave the hillbillies alone and they'll leave you alone.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by thearn4 »

pragone wrote: post #570
acchow wrote: post #537

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How will Vancouver improve its weather? California has a powerful draw...

Literally one of the things I hated the most when I visited California and all I hear about California is the weather (I should say, "San Francisco", not CA, since obviously CA is a pretty big state). I can't imagine what living somewhere that is the same every day.

I do feel like an outlier in that I really enjoy living in distinct seasons. It feel like it helps me mark the time internally, and reminds me that I'm a pretty small part of nature overall.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by vkou »

drpgq wrote: post #504
vkou wrote: post #363

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The highest marginal income tax rate in Vancouver, BC is 47%. The highest marginal income tax rate in California is 52%. For that tax money, in Vancouver, you will also get free* healthcare. In San Francisco, you will get... Actually, I'm not sure what you'll get. The biggest prison system in the world? The biggest military in the world? * At the higher tax brackets, you will need to pay a $1,800/year MSP premium for…

Yeah but where do those highest marginal rates kick in? Especially with the Canadian dollar this week being around 74 cents.

Compare for yourself.

https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator#IrgvH...

https://simpletax.ca/calculator

At wages of (All amounts are in USD):

$100,000 USD, $200,000 USD, and $400,000 USD, you will pay:

$32,000, $69,000, and $159,000 in taxes in California. $28,000, $73,500, $169,000 in taxes in BC.

But that's just income tax. There's also Social Security/Unemployment Insurance contributions. In the US, 13%[1] of your salary up to $130,000 will go to social security contributions. In Canada, 10% of your salary, up to $40,000 USD will go towards the CPP and Unemployment Insurance.

So, at the $100,000 USD salary, you will pay $45,000 in taxes in California. In BC, you will pay $32,000 in taxes.

At $200,000 USD, you will pay $86,000 in taxes in California. In BC, you will pay... $77,500.

At pretty much every tax bracket, you will pay more taxes in California, and get less for them, then you would in BC. As it turns out, maintaining twelve super-aircraft carrier groups is expensive.

Mind you, BC is not all flowers and roses. The provincial government runs the place with all the integrity and forward-thinking of a banana republic.

[1] Yes, your employer pays half of it. That money would have otherwise gone towards your salary.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by acchow »

cdelsolar wrote: post #567
hackuser wrote: post #553

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Lots of business is done in places where weather not up to Bay Area standards, such as New York, London, Tokyo, Beijing, etc.

You guys realize that our weather sucks right? A handful of days over 75F per year, near-freezing cold and fog in _July_ in some parts of the city, needing to carry at least a light jacket/hoodie every single day of the year?

Not everyone thinks >75F is comfortable...imho, if you're sitting in the noon sun having a picnic, 65-70F is ideal.

Also, not everyone hates wearing a jacket everyday...

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Post by bermanoid »

pragone wrote: post #570
acchow wrote: post #537

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How will Vancouver improve its weather? California has a powerful draw...

Literally one of the things I hated the most when I visited California and all I hear about California is the weather (I should say, "San Francisco", not CA, since obviously CA is a pretty big state). I can't imagine what living somewhere that is the same every day.

If you grew up on the east coast, where you have about 1 week of pleasant weather in between hellish hotness in the summer and ball-shriveling cold in the winter, you'd appreciate SF's boringly middling weather.

I do miss the snow, but that's what Tahoe is for.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

dgudkov wrote: post #555
Tiktaalik wrote: post #505

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The average price of a detached home in Metro Vancouver (includes suburbs of Vancouver) in February was $1.76 million. That's down from $1.82 million a year earlier. 99.7% of properties in the City of Vancouver proper are valued at more than $1 million. The average price for a detached home in the City of Vancouver in 2016 was $2.77 million. I've had some trouble finding closely comparable values but it seems like th…

Quick fact check returned this: "In all, 745 detached homes sold in Metro Vancouver last month, a massive 58.1 per cent drop from February 2016. The benchmark price for detached homes was $1,474,200, unchanged from the previous month but down 6.5 per cent from the past six months."[1]. Also [2]. And that's CAD, not USD. In USD it's $1,092,000. Still very expensive but not $1.76mln. [1] http://news.buzzbuzzhome.com/20…

Yeah those are "benchmark" prices, which is a special MLS measurement designed to value a "typical" home. I decided to ignore that valuation method and instead use average prices because I'm not sure if a similar or comparable measurement tool as the benchmark exists for SF home valuations.

http://www.rew.ca/news/benchmark-vs-average-vs-median-what-s...

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Post by tetraodonpuffer »

komali2 wrote: post #531
err4nt wrote: post #455

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> He could not hire US citizens as workers because nobody that is born here wants to climb trees all day picking fruit for minimum wage. Then he may have to pay over minimum wage!

Then he would have to charge 10$/apple at the store, his follow-up point.

how many apples per hour does a worker pick? If you paid a worker an extra $20/hour you don't get $10/apple at the store unless the worker only picks two apples an hour, now, does it?

Not paying farm workers acceptable salaries otherwise things at the grocery store will cost 5x don't seem to pass the math smell test...

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Post by SilasX »

komali2 wrote: post #531
err4nt wrote: post #455

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> He could not hire US citizens as workers because nobody that is born here wants to climb trees all day picking fruit for minimum wage. Then he may have to pay over minimum wage!

Then he would have to charge 10$/apple at the store, his follow-up point.

No. The numbers don't work. A typical apple picker (the most labor intense/apple part of the work) can do 1000 lb/hour [1]

So even if you had to pay domestic workers $30/hour, and you could pay migrants nothing, that still only comes to charging 3 cents a pound more. Not $8.

[1] Just an example, but others say the same: https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/jobs-making-money/side-gigs/...

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