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Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#71

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I would guess testing that the mouse pointer moves semi-randomly over the button, in a fashion typical of the way humans browse a web page

What about the Tab and Enter users?

Those users are basically robots already.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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They should add a contest to break it. Cause that sounds like the only real thing they can do is track the movement of the mouse / keyboard, and that sounds quite simple to fake.

Google Analytics and Ads are present in a large portion of the Web. So it is much more difficult than that. It requires you to program the bot to follow a sequence of links unrelated to the bot's goal, idle on some pages, click links that make sense to the session, enter some text sometimes in comment fields — in essence, react to content the bot has never seen before.

Google is betting that they can extract meaning from web pages better than bots, and they have had a lot of experience with that. On Web pages, each link does not have the same probability of being clicked by a human given the list of pages seen before. Knowing that probability requires the bot to understand what a human would see, and to perform actions that match a given goal which corresponds to the sequence of pages browsed.

And that goal mustn't always be the bot's goal. Bots have business incentives: they want to get people to do something by writing text that will be seen by humans. Humans, on the other hand, only do so once in a while.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#73

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Because you feel that data mining everything you do and serving you creepy-level ads isn't enough?

Is someone forcing you to use their services? Stick to DDG if you don't like the contract.

Did I claim to be using their services? Stick to what you know if you don't like reading what I actually write.

I was questioning someone feeling "hypocritical" for using other google services but disliking their new recaptcha tool.

As for "the contract": I'd wager that for most people, most contracts they see/sign are easier to get a clear understanding of, than Google's business model of "free" services.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#74

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What's wrong with showing me relevant ads?

The problem is the method of building the "profile" that determines what's "relevant" for you.

Google lets you turn off "personalized ads" if you don't want them. https://support.google.com/ads/answer/2662922?hl=en

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#75
post #5

While I like the idea of not having to deal with these annoying ReCAPTCHA prompts, something somehow feels "intrusive ?". I mean does this mean google is going to keep track of what I would be doing when I visit a site? Say for instance I am signing up for a website, does the password I enter get sent to google servers to be analyzed now?

It's just one more of the many elements of Google puzzle. They control most web searches, GA is a de facto standard of web analytics, Gmail is the most popular mail service, not to mention other free services, Android etc. etc., Google can easily track you all the way from the moment you open your browser (likely, Chrome...), through your searches, visits and actions. It's high time people realized giving so much power to one company, just for short-time convenience, is extremely dangerous. Google might have benevolent management now, but this can easily change, and it scary to think what could happen then.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Is someone forcing you to use their services? Stick to DDG if you don't like the contract.

I think the point is that they're payment enough, no need to feel hypocritical for disliking the captcha.

People that project their paranoia on others are usually running ad, tracking and probably even script blockers.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#77
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nice, but that was the most uninformative video ever.

its quite simple. the boot kicks the ball, the balloon carries it up to the ferris wheel, the ball drops onto some vertical pully system and raises the red thingy, which then tells the browser that you are not a robot

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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post #45

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It depends on whether you're presented with the v1/noscript version or the v2 captcha. Desktop users may prefer the noscript version since it's faster to fill out with a keyboard if you're already typing into a form anyway instead of having to switch to the mouse.

Both v1 and v2 have noscript versions. Here is what the v2 noscript version looks like: https://vc.gg/B9zmj4hi https://vc.gg/CTskizZe

I'm talking about image-based v2. I have better luck with them if I allow Javascript. I don't recall seeing the code pasting ones until recently. I often found v1 impossible. And buggy, in the sense that they kept repeating even when I clearly got them right.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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post #4

Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human-in-the-loop Expect to see more of this.

Clicking on the link I thought Wikipedia just unveiled a radical re-design haha. (It's a link to the mobile website.)

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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I guess not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA#Origin

It says there that it was. Seems like a bait-and-switch. Do free labor for a good cause (PD books), turns out you're just growing Goolge's library which can be taken down at a whim.

It says there that it was.

No, that was the Distributed Proofreaders project, which is unrelated (just used as an early example of crowdsourced OCR).

reCaptcha originally helped digitized the archive of the New York Times, but that was finished years ago.

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