Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by endless1234 » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:49 AM UTC

vidyesh wrote: post #8

This is so confusing. It doesn't explain how it works nor a demo page nor the reason behind why it went invisible.

Instead of the user having to click the "I am not a robot" checkbox, then the submit button (or w/e), this basically binds clicking the submit button to reCAPTCHA. So whatever checks clicking "I am not a robot" would run are instead done automatically when submitting.

No idea how the additional prompts (e.g. "select the parts of the image with a street sign") are shown nicely in this "invisible" UX though.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by zumu » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:49 AM UTC

I always wondered how blind people entered captchas. Does this finally make captchas accessible?

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by stephenr » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:51 AM UTC

simonh wrote: post #27

mrighele wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having to do free work for Google is more than weird for me. For this reason unless the page is really important I end up closing the tab. If it was for open service (such as OpenStreetMap) it would be a different matter though.

Ouse a lot of free Google services like Gmail and Google Maos, so I don't mind helping to improve those services. I'd feel hypocritical otherwise.

Because you feel that data mining everything you do and serving you creepy-level ads isn't enough?

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by obmelvin » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:54 AM UTC

mirimir wrote: post #35

macrael wrote: post #4

Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

I see lot's of those on Tor browser. There's nothing about entering street numbers, just identifying images that include street numbers. But perhaps that's also valuable. And what about the other major types, such as rivers, mountains, store fronts and street signs?

I believe those are to provide data for image Segmentation (localization of an image is harder than pure recognition)

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by the8472 » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:56 AM UTC

mirimir wrote: post #35

macrael wrote: post #4

Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

I see lot's of those on Tor browser. There's nothing about entering street numbers, just identifying images that include street numbers. But perhaps that's also valuable. And what about the other major types, such as rivers, mountains, store fronts and street signs?

It depends on whether you're presented with the v1/noscript version or the v2 captcha. Desktop users may prefer the noscript version since it's faster to fill out with a keyboard if you're already typing into a form anyway instead of having to switch to the mouse.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by turblety » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:56 AM UTC

albeebe1 wrote: post #10

I'd love to hear some commentary from someone involved in the business of bypassing captchas. I have to assume "google invisible captcha hack" is getting bid up right now.

Me too. If you want to spam or hack surely you'd just outsource the captcha solving to a cheaper country. Or even sites like 2captcha that give you 1000 solves for around 50c. You can still make a robot but just send the captcha to a service like that, and that's not even one of the cheapest ones. Especially when you consider what the real value of the data (or even spamming) is.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by janpieterz » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:57 AM UTC

zumu wrote: post #42

I always wondered how blind people entered captchas. Does this finally make captchas accessible?

'Good' captchas will have a short audio clip that can be played instead.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by bluthru » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:58 AM UTC

mrighele wrote: post #22

macrael wrote: post #4

Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

Having to do free work for Google is more than weird for me. For this reason unless the page is really important I end up closing the tab. If it was for open service (such as OpenStreetMap) it would be a different matter though.

I much prefer that to being tracked.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by patrickaljord » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:59 AM UTC

stephenr wrote: post #43

simonh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ouse a lot of free Google services like Gmail and Google Maos, so I don't mind helping to improve those services. I'd feel hypocritical otherwise.

Because you feel that data mining everything you do and serving you creepy-level ads isn't enough?

What's wrong with showing me relevant ads?

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 7:59 AM UTC

mrighele wrote: post #22

macrael wrote: post #4

Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

Having to do free work for Google is more than weird for me. For this reason unless the page is really important I end up closing the tab. If it was for open service (such as OpenStreetMap) it would be a different matter though.

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