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Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by pmontra »

mulmen wrote: post #32
kuschku wrote: post #9

I'm wondering if this might not be illegal under several countries' data privacy laws. Users need to be directly and visibly be informed, if and when data of theirs will be transmitted to third parties. As Google's ReCaptcha is based on tracking what websites you visit, what search terms you enter, correlating this data, and comparing this tracking profile of yours, it's quite problematic that the user doesn't even s…

I think you are raising a valid point but this is outside my expertise. Could a site owner satisfy the EU Data Privacy Directive by simply notifying users that their activity is being provided to Google to prevent abuse on the site? I imagine something similar to the cookie warning.

The spirit of the EU directive is that you must get consent from your users before you attach third party cookies to their browsers. The setting in the browser is not enough because most people don't even know about it (not that they care about the cookie law banner). So I guess it will be the same with the captcha, if the information sent to Google can be used to track people. But I'm not a lawyer.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

patrickaljord wrote: post #49
stephenr wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you feel that data mining everything you do and serving you creepy-level ads isn't enough?

What's wrong with showing me relevant ads?

It modifies your behaviour in ways that aren't in your interest.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by bitmapbrother »

stephenr wrote: post #43
simonh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ouse a lot of free Google services like Gmail and Google Maos, so I don't mind helping to improve those services. I'd feel hypocritical otherwise.

Because you feel that data mining everything you do and serving you creepy-level ads isn't enough?

Is someone forcing you to use their services? Stick to DDG if you don't like the contract.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by icebraining »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #63
stephenr wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you feel that data mining everything you do and serving you creepy-level ads isn't enough?

Is someone forcing you to use their services? Stick to DDG if you don't like the contract.

I think the point is that they're payment enough, no need to feel hypocritical for disliking the captcha.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by CiaranMcNulty »

d--b wrote: post #60

They should add a contest to break it. Cause that sounds like the only real thing they can do is track the movement of the mouse / keyboard, and that sounds quite simple to fake.

Or basically they already know who you are because you've got a fleshed-out profile from various other sites you use.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by the8472 »

gexcolo wrote: post #53
the8472 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on whether you're presented with the v1/noscript version or the v2 captcha. Desktop users may prefer the noscript version since it's faster to fill out with a keyboard if you're already typing into a form anyway instead of having to switch to the mouse.

Both v1 and v2 have noscript versions. Here is what the v2 noscript version looks like: https://vc.gg/B9zmj4hi https://vc.gg/CTskizZe

That is terrible. I really prefer the v1 variant since I generally don't get the single-click for v2. Apparently they have discontinued it.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by Waterluvian »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #33
macrael wrote: post #4

Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

I wonder how long until they place some native ads in there so that publishers could earn a penny.

"Look at the picture to the right. How much is the new Cheddar Cheese Apocalypse Whopper for a limited time only?"

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

popol12 wrote: post #58
Sir_Substance wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I mean does this mean google is going to keep track of what I would be doing when I visit a site? Oh buddy, I have bad news for you... https://support.google.com/dfp_premium/answer/1716364?hl=en https://www.google.com/analytics/#?modal_active=none https://www.doubleclickbygoogle.com/solutions/measurement/

Wow, I never heard of Pixel Tracking. That sounds super evil. Are there browser plugins to fight back on this one?

Adblockers such as uBlock already block many of these since they're hosted by ad agencies. If someone is determined they can bypass the filter easily though; you'd need a static filter for each of these then. The only global solution would be to block all remote images which would likely break many websites. Also, nowadays so many sophisticated tracking methods exist I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.
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