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Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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I'm curious.

Do you price check each time??

Is there an app that can determine which is cheapest?

If the prices are about the same can you hail both and take the one that arrives first (& cancel)? (Getting from a to b is a commodity)

Does the uber app detect that you have a competitor and can it be smart enough to price accordingly?

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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The thing is, the user experience of Uber, Lyft et al is strictly better than public transport. Some would even say it is 10x better (in the From Zero to One sense). It picks you up whenever you want, wherever you want and drops you off exactly where you need to go. I agree that buses are more ecological, but doesn't this just mean that we should combine Uber and public transport? In the future I see a fleet of large…

> In the future I see a fleet of larger vehicles combined with a Uber Pool type app working really well. This already exists. Or it existed anyway. NYC used to have "Chinatown buses" that ran underserved routes for a fraction of the price. NYC and the MTA prosecuted them and got rid of them. Furthermore, innovation and competition in busing is great in Latin America. But we're waiting on regulations to change, not fo…

> NYC used to have "Chinatown buses" that ran underserved routes for a fraction of the price. NYC and the MTA prosecuted them and got rid of them

The implication in your comment seems to be that the MTA went after the Chinatown buses because they were anti innovation and competition.

I'm not sure if you ever took the Fung Wah bus from Boston to NYC, but one reason the DoT and MTA worked so hard to get rid of them was they had a tendency to burst into flames by the side of the road.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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The thing is, the user experience of Uber, Lyft et al is strictly better than public transport. Some would even say it is 10x better (in the From Zero to One sense). It picks you up whenever you want, wherever you want and drops you off exactly where you need to go. I agree that buses are more ecological, but doesn't this just mean that we should combine Uber and public transport? In the future I see a fleet of large…

If you live in a congested city taking the train can be faster than Uber for some trips. I don't like paying $15-$20 for the privilege of sitting in traffic when the same trip would have cost me $2-$3 on public transit.

But there is a convenience factor to consider. Trains run on a schedule; they get crowded, you may have to stand; they depart from and arrive at predetermined locations. They may travel faster and more efficiently, but do they actually get you to your destination quicker? Do you spend effort planning your schedule around the train?

In my experience Uber is vastly superior than all other available transportation options.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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No sarcasm intended. The op chooses to use uber and profit from low cost fares. He pays little and uber is only able to pay out meagre to their drivers. Uber is not profitable, they cannot pay their drivers better without raising the fares. Isn't this a fact? I didn't mean the op personally, but all who use such a service which imho exploit drivers. One chooses to use such a service and has to shoulder part of the re…

I think there is a difference on what the driver gets and what someone pays that the consumer is not responsible for. Its like arguing that you should go to the restaurant that gives its waiters the highest salaries. The consumer cannot have that responsibility, because the consumer doesnt agree with the employee what the employee salary is as much as the employee doesn't dictaminate how much the consumer can pay. Pl…

Besides the monetary consideration (which appears to be the main argument), there is also an ethical one. Maybe fewer people care about ethics but its important to bring that into the mix.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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The key points are - CEO never blackmailed journalists - No major revelations of sexual harassment - ~~No major revelations of political support~~ Related to core business - Surge Limit has prevented complaints about emergency pricing vs Uber. - Lyft takes a lower commission capped at 20%/25% - Lyft has in app digital tipping (drivers keep 100% of tips). Uber's tip policy encourages cash, which is an often cited comp…

Travis Kalanick has never blackmailed journalists. Emil Michael, an Uber executive, brought up the idea as an ethical hypothetical. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicole-campbell/what-was-said-... Specifically, he asked Ben Smith of Buzzfeed whether it would be ethical for Uber to hire someone to investigate and report to the public true facts about a journalist (as opposed to journalists investigating and reporting t…

Some journalists seem to believe that freedom of the press is an exclusive legal right. In reality, the right belongs to everyone.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Is the train door-to-door?

My old commute was pretty much door-to-door on the bus, I had to walk one block to the stop and it dumped me right next to the office. Not a bad deal for under $2. If I want to take a train downtown, I can take one of three bus lines to one of two different train lines, all without walking much more than a block. The buses have GPS on them so I don't even have to leave my house until the bus is nearly at the stop. Th…

Yes, but you are one of likely very few with that experience available.

You are beholden to the bus schedule. Your choice of where to live greatly affects your commute. You have to combine multiple transportation options. If the weather is bad, you are exposed to the elements.

Uber remedies all of the above, and yes, for a price, but not wholly unreasonable. Sure there will always be less expensive options, but Uber appears to be quite reasonable when you consider the big picture. Is it sustainable? They'll show us.

It also has the neat feature of being able to continuously optimise and become more efficient. Most other public transportation does not, is heavily subsidized, and extremely difficult to change.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

The solution is reliable public transport.

The way i see it, Uber is half price because it is sustained by VC money and ever-decreasing pay for drivers. Taxis or Ubers are in theory your own private vehicle or limo. It should be special occasions. Because you're late to the meeting. Or have to go the airport. Or because you had a drink too much. Having a private vehicle for everyday transport is a luxury and it shouldn't be an easy or sustainable option. Unless you are wealthy.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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The number one reason you don't use Lyft is because of tipping? What do you use instead, Uber, taxi, or do you drive? If it's the first, how do you justify using Uber when its practices are significantly worse than an optional tipping for the users? If it's the second, how do you justify using a taxi when tips (in the US) are almost mandatory?

Uber. It's just mentally easier to deal with. After spending time in other countries, I have come to dislike tipping. Having to decide --do they deserve it, do they not? I don't want to deal with it. Tipping used to be an optional thing in transactions but it has become pervasive. Tipping jars. Just charge me more and pay the barista a wage a highschooler or recent graduate can live on.

It seems you significantly value not having to tip over rewarding drivers appropriately.

I use Lyft because I can ensure that the other person in the transaction is fairly compensated. I see you would prefer for both services to fairly compensate drivers, but given the choice of doing more work to ensure adequate compensation or giving up on it entirely, you went with B.

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It also helps that Europe and its cities are ... smaller.

I don't know if you're thinking about area or population, but by either metric London is bigger than any city in the US, and has a much better public transport system.

Houston and Jacksonville are bigger in area and I am sure some other American cities are as well.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

The solution is reliable public transport. The way i see it, Uber is half price because it is sustained by VC money and ever-decreasing pay for drivers. Taxis or Ubers are in theory your own private vehicle or limo. It should be special occasions. Because you're late to the meeting. Or have to go the airport. Or because you had a drink too much. Having a private vehicle for everyday transport is a luxury and it shoul…

This only works in what, 5 - 15% of the US? Public transport isn't viable for commuting in most of the country. If you factor in time and the raise in tax required to subsidize it there it is likely that it is more cost effective to own and maintain a used car.
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