Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

Post by jessep » Wed, Mar 01, 2017, 3:12 PM UTC

byuu wrote: post #88

jessep wrote: post #28

I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…

Thanks for that advice, I'll have to try that next time. I too have had kidney stones that hurt to the point of vomiting and being unable to even speak. Same thing, given opioids that barely helped with the pain. And in my case, they ended up triggering a light panic attack sensation. Not to mention the $4,000 hospital bill for getting a scan and prescription, of which my insurance only covered $2,300 of it.

Post by samcodes » Wed, Mar 01, 2017, 3:12 PM UTC

zzrg wrote: post #95

M_Grey wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a friend who lost a bunch of weight (and was very overweight) in a relatively short period. He then developed gout, which is apparently agonizing. He did the same things as you, and like you, is "in awe". Just having seen the difference in him I'm prettied impressed too. I'm glad that you've found something that works for you.

I also have gout. Weed does help somewhat during intense flare-ups. However, NSAIDs inhibit cannabis reuptake (or something), so you can't effectively use both weed and an NSAID. And given the choice between the two, NSAIDs are much more effective for me.

Post by magic_beans » Wed, Mar 01, 2017, 3:16 PM UTC

epmaybe wrote: post #149

jessep wrote: post #28

I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…

why do you get so many stones, if you don't mind me asking?

Post by M_Grey » Wed, Mar 01, 2017, 3:26 PM UTC

zzrg wrote: post #95

M_Grey wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a friend who lost a bunch of weight (and was very overweight) in a relatively short period. He then developed gout, which is apparently agonizing. He did the same things as you, and like you, is "in awe". Just having seen the difference in him I'm prettied impressed too. I'm glad that you've found something that works for you.

I also have gout. Weed does help somewhat during intense flare-ups. However, NSAIDs inhibit cannabis reuptake (or something), so you can't effectively use both weed and an NSAID. And given the choice between the two, NSAIDs are much more effective for me.

Post by iamatworknow » Wed, Mar 01, 2017, 3:28 PM UTC

anarazel wrote: post #79

bluejekyll wrote: post #66

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> Alcohol and tobacco industry will lose customers Tobacco is already losing customers, and this is partly b/c of the fact that second hand smoke has been attacked so directly. It's not just YOU that's smoking, it's everyone around you (marijuana, depending on it's consumption method will suffer a similar stigma). Alcohol companies on the other hand are just being paranoid. I suspect that alcohol consumption will mai…

Fwiw, I am for legalization, but the second hand smoking of MJ bothers me quite a bit. I don't like the smell and, worse, get a queasy stomach (even though I otherwise don't have such issues). Living in places where people frequently smoke outside (Berlin, now SF) that's quite annoying.