I skimmed the paper, I can't see what mode of intake they suggest. I suppose users were smoking joints. Wouldn't vaporised THC inhalation be even more effective and less damaging for health ?
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#72Surprising that big pharma is an opponent to a readily-available natural substance outside the purview of patent protections. Quick, better enforce the federal ban.
Been asking myself why drugs that make you feel good is banned like cannabis, mushrooms, LSD, etc. Government got anything against people feeling good? Conspiracy?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It often is not helpful to give advice to people who are suffering from a chronic condition, if all you have to offer is some press you saw somewhere. They are living it, most people who live it also research it.
They research it because the doctors can't be bothered with that even though it's their job. Why doctors aren't fired in masses is bewildering. Got this issue with my doctors. They just don't care about me. They want to do as little work as possible. They refuse to read the papers I give them. They refuse to use effective medicines according to the research. They refuse to listen to me period. They're lazy sadistic a…
Here here. Cancer patient. I've met a LOT of doctors... only two of whom I trust more than my own research. I had to diagnose myself (!!!) after two doctors gave me the old "it's nothing", took months while it spread, demanded biopsy. Am now stage IV while they're still raking in the cash, coasting through their half-assed careers.
It's bewildering to me that I'm expected to put more effort and research into building some stupid web app than they do for being responsible for a human life, for a fraction of the money.
People who've not been through the system have NO idea just how dysfunctional it is. It's sickening and criminal, at every corner -- and NOTHING is being done.
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#74In many cases, though, cannabis and CBD oil aren't nearly as effective as opioids for relief from severe pain, right? How often is this a viable alternative for patients? This study only looked at 250 people who already have medical cannabis prescriptions for pain, so this shouldn't be extrapolated too heavily.
Treating chronic pain has less to do with pain relief and more to do with mental health. Sometimes people just want to forget or feel different for a while. Also, opiates suck!
Where'd you get this idea? Any citations?
Your comment reads condescending to me: "my pain is all in my head." But it's not, and treating my mental heath is treating the symptoms and not the cause. The best thing for my mental health would be an end to my physical pain.
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#75In many cases, though, cannabis and CBD oil aren't nearly as effective as opioids for relief from severe pain, right? How often is this a viable alternative for patients? This study only looked at 250 people who already have medical cannabis prescriptions for pain, so this shouldn't be extrapolated too heavily.
I was diagnosed with chronic pain syndrome, and when given the opportunity, had my doctor switch my prescription from opioids to cannabis. I don't think that one can appreciate how effective it is for chronic pain, until you've had to use it for that.
Any specific strain / method? Weed does absolutely nothing for me in terms of pain mgmt. Tried a dozen strains, cbd pills... I just feel stoned :/
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was diagnosed with chronic pain syndrome, and when given the opportunity, had my doctor switch my prescription from opioids to cannabis. I don't think that one can appreciate how effective it is for chronic pain, until you've had to use it for that.
Any specific strain / method? Weed does absolutely nothing for me in terms of pain mgmt. Tried a dozen strains, cbd pills... I just feel stoned :/
I would say try edibles as others have had positive experience and relief, but my body digests it too quickly and usually doesn't do much (tricks to eat high fat food before, but doesn't always work), so I haven't had too much luck.
However,
What I actually recommend, and has helped for many of people, is the Phoenix tears/ Rick Simpson oil regiment.
You can buy premade oil marketed as such or Rick Simpson provides diy on how to do this yourself.
Essentially it is ingesting small amounts of concentrated cannabis oil daily, like taking a prescription.
It vastly helped my mom's Chrons and I know of a few people help with chronic back pain
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm kind of surprised that the alcohol and tobacco industries don't lobby for legalization. They could potentially diversify in to marijuana manufacture and sale, and leverage their brands and experience in selling other recreational drugs. The pharmaceutical industry could similarly profit from manufacturing and selling medical marijuana.
The problem from the pharma companies point of view is that they have patents on a lot of their drugs, granting exclusivity on production. Marijuana is a plant which anyone can grow (and thus compete with them).
So is tobacco and while I've known the occasional person who grew it, it's pretty uncommon. I've also been surprised that tobacco companies don't get in on the legalise marijuana thing. Possibly they are suffering so much from bad press they don't think they could withstand the backlash...
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#78I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…
I have a friend who lost a bunch of weight (and was very overweight) in a relatively short period. He then developed gout, which is apparently agonizing. He did the same things as you, and like you, is "in awe". Just having seen the difference in him I'm prettied impressed too. I'm glad that you've found something that works for you.
Pain from gout is excruciating. It is incredibly painful, and you can't put pressure on it, you can't even cover it with a light sheet, you can't sleep... and it goes on for days, sometimes weeks. My longest attack was 2 months long.
Standard opioids didn't touch. Should have tried MJ instead.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
and who loses? Drug industry can't patent it and own it and restrict it to cause demand and price increase. Alcohol and tobacco industry will lose customers. The governments, politicians and industries will loose face for example over the fact they have told lies for decades for profits.
> Alcohol and tobacco industry will lose customers Tobacco is already losing customers, and this is partly b/c of the fact that second hand smoke has been attacked so directly. It's not just YOU that's smoking, it's everyone around you (marijuana, depending on it's consumption method will suffer a similar stigma). Alcohol companies on the other hand are just being paranoid. I suspect that alcohol consumption will mai…
Fwiw, I am for legalization, but the second hand smoking of MJ bothers me quite a bit. I don't like the smell and, worse, get a queasy stomach (even though I otherwise don't have such issues). Living in places where people frequently smoke outside (Berlin, now SF) that's quite annoying.
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#80And fundamentalists Christians would rather let God heal their children than consult medical professionals.
Let's not elevate the desires of the non-professional to equal the guidance of medical professionals, no matter how wishful we are to do so.