171–180 of 182 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
They probably won't be expelling anyone, but the UK government has explicitly said that they'll use the rights of EU citizens in the UK as a bargaining chip, so if I were an EU citizen in the UK I'd be worried.
They've explicitly said they don't want to use them as a bargaining chip, but would be foolish to give it up uniliaterally.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is the UK different in this regard?
The question is, do people from Romania and Bulgaria need a visa? Looks to me they can not just move to the UK but maybe the UK has different agreements with this countries. Just checked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Romanian... Looks like they don't need anything but a passport to go to the UK.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, except if you happen to take a flight out and come back after 15th of March. Because then presumably you'll be 'arriving after the cut-off date'. And secondly, do you really believe the uk government capable of distinguishing between people who have arrived before or after a date? They don't have a record of travel for everyone in the country. Are you going to be keeping bills in your name from before 15th of m…
If you're 'resident' during the time you're absent the country, there's no way this cut-off will apply to you. While they haven't formulated it yet, it's pretty clear this applies to people who try to become residents after the cut-off date, not people who happen to land in the country afterwards. Politics may be a bit screwy right now, but it's not insane, at least not yet in the UK, as much as people like to hyperb…
Oh yes it is. We have a nasty, dishonest and utterly incompetent government with free reign to do irreparable damage to this country, no thanks to our non-functioning and useless opposition party.
Meanwhile, our national press, who have never been anything other than dishonest and self-serving are in full frothing-at-the-mouth hysteria mode when it comes to Brexit.
I can't recall in recent memory a time in the UK when politics has been so dysfunctional and depressing as now.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The economy is currently doing well in the UK. All doom and gloom forecasts as a result of the referendum have been re-revised up. Yes GBP has dropped in value but it will inevitably bounce back in time (although unlikely to the artificial high it was on just before the referendum last year).
Right, so measures that confirm your prejudice are legitimate, whereas anything that dropped was clearly 'artificially high'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/12065157/Pound-i...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The economy is currently doing well in the UK. All doom and gloom forecasts as a result of the referendum have been re-revised up. Yes GBP has dropped in value but it will inevitably bounce back in time (although unlikely to the artificial high it was on just before the referendum last year).
Perhaps the government-scale numbers and stock markets haven't been hit as much, but I know my wallet is being pinched more: food, travel, technology, heck, even apps. "The economy" is one thing, money in the pocket is quite another.
But a lot of the price pinches are down to currency fluctuation resulting in sellers raising prices in GBP hence our purchasing power is reduced.
The actual economy of the country to date is doing alright.
Why is this on HN?
The massive anti-Brexit, anti-Trump astroturfing campaign which has ruined reddit wants to come here, too.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
These can be valid points for some, and carry less weight for others (say, if you live in Paris and are offered a good job in London, and they help you deal with the visa stuff, for most it's probably also nice to be able to visit Paris much more easily than you could from NY or SF.) At any rate, "not sure why anyone would prefer London with the post-EU laws" is very different from "they decided they don't want me be…
> if you live in Paris and are offered a good job in London, and they help you deal with the visa stuff Note that the freedom of movement in the EU means there isn't any "visa stuff" to deal with. An EU citizen moving to the UK needs to fill in a form, to get a "National Insurance" number. The same would be required of a British citizen that didn't have one, for example if they'd been born and lived overseas before m…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If they want to kick me out Did the article? This is about a cutoff date to stop a wave of last minute immigrants. Nothing about expelling current ones. Don't let clickbait headlines make you angry.
How will border control at the airport distinguish between EU citizens who are allowed to come in, and those who need to fill out some paperwork and will be kicked out if they overstay their implied visa / waiver?
More seriously: permanent residency as a result of exercising treaty rights comes with a document, so some will carry that. For everyone else, you would hope the government will put in place some sort of registration scheme that is easier than treaty-rights (which currently requires 5 years of continuous settlement in UK).
As for prosecuting people who overstay... eh. They are already pretty overworked and incapable of tracking most illegals, I can only imagine things will get even worse after they add hundreds of thousands new cases. Like in the US, they will compensate for this structural deficiency by being extra-brutal with the poor few they do catch (like they already do). This will drive more and more people underground, which will do wonders for crime syndicates, human traffickers and the like.
As a CTO of a London based tech startup who has just employed an EU national with a start date after the 15th of March this article is terrifying.
UK Work Permits are trivial to get for tech workers from anywhere in the world.