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I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by ajross »

oAlbe wrote: post #87
ajross wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a "guess". The last Android release that lacked support for block-device-level encryption was KitKat, which shipped in 2013. Any device being advertised with the "Android" trademark (to be fair: AOSP-based clone OSes like Amazon's have been slower to evolve) over the last two years has that support. Please don't hijack an important security discussion to engage in meaningless platform flamage. Users with And…

I have some questions actually. Is it something you need to enable on Android? I seem to understand from the comment above yours that iOS has this enabled by default. If so, how do you actually enable it?

Settings -> Security -> Encrypt Phone

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by pfarnsworth »

aplomb wrote: post #89

If you have a Nexus Android phone, just change to guest mode or add another user. It's a seldom used feature and limits what people can see or do with your primary account - inspectors are unlikely to know as it's fairly low-key when users are swapped

But if they do know, that's a good way to get yourself banned from entering the country for lying to a border guard.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by psybin »

unethical_ban wrote: post #72
psybin wrote: post #31

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Option 1, why did you bring decoys? You should probably sit here in this cell for a bit while we work out what the fuck you're doing. Option 2, they can't stop you from entering but they can make you enter directly into a jail cell, or generally make your life miserable. See the owner of cock.li, who had all of his electronics seized twice.

OK, what's your point? Your responses are all pretty defeatist, and definitely speculative.

I've been party to discussions like this, I know how it goes. Once you're shoved in a small room indefinitely, all of your possessions and shoes taken so you don't kill yourself, and had questions dumped on you, a lot of these cute actions people are suggesting are pretty ridiculous. A seriously stupid move would be to try something like erasing your data, or trying to mislead the offers would simple prolong the experience. You get that treatment even if you haven't done anything wrong, god knows what happens if you have.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by chadgeidel »

helpfulanon wrote: post #32

Fun fact - the "border zone" in which your 4th amendment rights are suspended and you are subject to search, is 100 miles wide and overlaps where the majority of Americans live and work https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

Wow, I thought that only extended OUTSIDE the border, not INSIDE as well!

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by pfarnsworth »

exhilaration wrote: post #17
psybin wrote: post #6

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"Is this the phone you use on a day to day basis"- felony if you lie.

Option 1: "No, I left my phone at home." Option 2: If you're at the US border and a US citizen, "Sir, I'm an American citizen and just want want to get home" -- citizens can't be blocked from re-entering at the border.

"Okay, then please give me your Facebook and Twitter usernames and passwords." If you lie, and then they do a search and find you, then you're going to be in bigger trouble.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by idbehold »

mustacheemperor wrote: post #54
sosborn wrote: post #43

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Honest question: How is that a felony? I have multiple profiles on my home machine. Does that make me a felon?

I'm assuming they're referring to the serious felony of lying to border police that you've fully unlocked your phone as requested when in reality you're presenting an artificially limited profile.

I don't know what you mean by "fully unlocked". Is there a legal definition for this? I made available to you more than just the lock screen software of my electronic device by entering a passcode, what more does "fully unlocked" entail (Please cite sources)?

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by psybin »

oAlbe wrote: post #87
ajross wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a "guess". The last Android release that lacked support for block-device-level encryption was KitKat, which shipped in 2013. Any device being advertised with the "Android" trademark (to be fair: AOSP-based clone OSes like Amazon's have been slower to evolve) over the last two years has that support. Please don't hijack an important security discussion to engage in meaningless platform flamage. Users with And…

I have some questions actually. Is it something you need to enable on Android? I seem to understand from the comment above yours that iOS has this enabled by default. If so, how do you actually enable it?

Yes, it's impossible to disable the disk encryption on iOS. If you don't set a passcode, the disk is still encrypted (but only with a per device key), this prevents recovery of data after an erase.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by slyall »

I read the comments here and I'm reminded of a Tweet I read yesterday:

"Next programmer bro who explains his clever travel information security hack has to change his name to Mohamed Hussein Ali and try it at LAX"

https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/831316334973579264

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by anigbrowl »

capote wrote: post #88
anigbrowl wrote: post #65

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This suggestion comes up in every single thread . Consider that when such an obvious gambit seems to exist you're almost certainly not the first person to have come up with it, and there's a reason it hasn't already taken off.

I realize I'm not the first person to come up with most ideas I have. I don't mind. Care to share the reason it hasn't taken off? Or are you here just to call me out?

Other commenters have already explained it to you. Reviewing existing knowledge on popular topics will often save you time and increase the enjoyment of participating.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Post by idbehold »

Spooky23 wrote: post #57
sosborn wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: How is that a felony? I have multiple profiles on my home machine. Does that make me a felon?

If you are asked to produce the contents of your property and provide access to a subset of that property, that will be interpreted as either hindering official action or lying to a federal agent. Lying to a federal agent is a felony. From the customs agent and legal point of view, there is no distinction between hiding a secret compartment in your luggage and a device.

They asked him to provide the password, they didn't ask him to produce the contents of his property.

> They eventually returned and said they’d release him if he told them the password to unlock his phone.

How have I hindered official action or lied to a federal agent by providing one of my passwords?

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