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Pretty clever and effective message. I'd put money on this being shared by all my friends on Facebook in a few days. Trump's last couple tweets have backfired and actually increased his targets' stock price though. You might have to flip the algorithm around if this continues.

Wouldn't that be illegal? If you trade fast enough it still works. Nordstroms took a hit for few minutes before coming out slightly ahead.

> Nordstroms took a hit for few minutes before coming out slightly ahead.

That effect is most likely due to automated traders trying to profit from Trumps tweets.

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He tweeted negatively about Nordstrom, stock went up. We might be onto something here...

One can easily place bets on the volatility of a stock. If you expect it to move, but you don't know which direction, that is tradeable knowledge.

Tweets seem to have an impact of around 1-3% lasting hours to days. Many (most?) stocks have too high implied volatility to begin with for straddling by tweet to be a productive strategy.

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Especially because the effect of Trump's tweets has rapidly shifted. His Boeing tweet hurt their stock price considerably. But just a few weeks later, his Nordstrom tweet helped quite a bit. I guess you could weigh it against his favorability polling, but you're right, this is all just guesswork masquerading as science.

Those are two very different companies, though. It's not like the average consumer can make any sort of buying decision that will affect an aerospace company, but they can certainly patronize or boycott a department store. Plus Boeing likely does a lot of business with the federal government which Trump is now head of, while retail outlets are highly unlikely to be directly affected by anything a President does.

That's true, which means any algorithm would also have to take the nature of the company being tweeted about into consideration.

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>Girls Who Code Sexism is good as long as victims are men.

(I'm a dude) Comments like these make me very disappointed. How can you possibly be opposed to candidates from half of the Earth's population being involved in a typically male-dominated space? Btw I TA at girl develop it classes and they're the best experiences I've ever had. Also the classes are open to all people. I realize the knee-jerk reaction is about explicit focusing, but do you not think it's a good idea to…

Certain personalities interpret fairness in way where one doesn't draw distinctions based on superficial attributes (gender, race, etc.?). One set of rules for all.

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The fact that Trump has the vocabulary of an 8th grader makes this a lot easier.

From a brief search, most presidential candidates speak at around an 8th grade level. (Which makes sense. They need to appeal to a broad audience, and speaking at a higher level is usually counterproductive anyway unless you have a specialized audience.) Trump's speaking level is more like 3rd or 4th grade.

From a recent Fresh Air interview with Trevor Noah. Earlier on he explains with a more personal anecdote why simpler language matters. But is there such a thing as too simple? Is 8th grade language more effective than 4th grade language? Later on Trevor Noah says

  You know, funny enough, one of the biggest moments of
  realization was when Donald Trump won the election because
  when I came into the show, I said, I think this guy can win.
  This was when he first came down that escalator. He gave his
  first speech.

  And then I was like, wow, this guy's going to do well. And I
  remember people laughed at me. People were like, oh, you
  silly ignorant person who's just come to this world. You
  clearly shouldn't be at "The Daily Show" 'cause you don't
  know what you're talking about. And I was like, but I don't
  know. He seems like he connects with people. I can relate to
  him as a performer. I can see what tools he's using. He's
  good at riffing. He's good at taking the crowd on a journey.
  I can see what he's doing.

  And people would say - and all throughout the race - and
  there were times when, on the show, I would mention it. You
  know, I mean, that's why I said Trump reminds me of an
  African dictator. And that's where that came from because
  everyone said to me, this guy is - he's just a fool. He's
  just - he's a buffoon. I said, yeah, you can say that. But
  I've seen this before. I have seen this before. I've seen
  clowns that go on to take over their countries. I've seen
  buffoons who end up ruling their worlds. And it came to
  pass.

  Source: http://www.npr.org/2016/12/16/505847054/trevor-noah-says-he-grew-up-in-the-shadow-of-a-giant-his-mom

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That's totally fair. Thanks for explaining. I'm on the opposite side of that, but I can see where you're coming from. I could see my daughter or some other young girl benefitting from this type of instruction so I wouldn't hesitate to volunteer with them again. I also see no shortage of opportunities for my son to learn about coding, so I don't think it's a detriment to him. I'd much rather send them to the same plac…

Why are you going to tell your hypothetical daughter that it's fine for her to have gender-segregated events and tell your son that it's a bad thing for him to do so? (Because presumably you don't support men (or whites, etc) only clubs...) And how do you do it without saying to your daughter that it's because she's weaker than your son and needs help? How do you explain to your son that he's so privileged that he ne…

First, I assure you my daughter is very real and ceased to be a hypothetical about a year ago ;)

As I said earlier, I don't think gender-segregated events should exist in a balanced world, but I don't have a problem with them when there is a great imbalance and they have the potential to tilt that balance back towards equality (by existing temporarily). The whole idea of them is to create an environment welcoming to girls and get them interested in coding. I don't particularly care whether they do this by promoting only to one gender or explicitly allowing only one gender; that's logistics. I care that if we can provide more girls and women with an accessible pathway into software, that's a good thing, because once CS classes are and industry are more gender-balanced, we won't need these types of camps.

Calling it "weakness" to gravitate towards something that other members of your gender are doing is misplaced, in my opinion. My computer engineering classes were roughly 95% male and I'm not so naive to think that those were exactly welcoming enviornments for women.

To deny these pathways is to claim that the status quo is fine and that this inequality is either meant to be or will somehow solve itself. I don't believe either of those things.

I don't really understand what "handicaps" the existence of an all-girl coding camp represents to men or boys. There are a plethora of options for us/them. Who is getting really, genuinely hurt by this, in your opinion?

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Why are you going to tell your hypothetical daughter that it's fine for her to have gender-segregated events and tell your son that it's a bad thing for him to do so? (Because presumably you don't support men (or whites, etc) only clubs...) And how do you do it without saying to your daughter that it's because she's weaker than your son and needs help? How do you explain to your son that he's so privileged that he ne…

First, I assure you my daughter is very real and ceased to be a hypothetical about a year ago ;) As I said earlier, I don't think gender-segregated events should exist in a balanced world, but I don't have a problem with them when there is a great imbalance and they have the potential to tilt that balance back towards equality (by existing temporarily). The whole idea of them is to create an environment welcoming to…

> I assure you my daughter is very real and ceased to be a hypothetical about a year ago

Heh. "Hypothetical child or children of unspecified gender".

> Calling it "weakness" to gravitate towards something that other members of your gender are doing is misplaced

There's a difference between doing something and discovering that most of the people doing it are your gender, and doing something that a higher-power (the event organizers) made gender-segregated.

And I don't mean there's a weakness in the person choosing the activity, I mean there's an apparent one you the parent are compensating for. Like if the event in question was basketball camps and you put your child in "Basketball for Short & Slow People". All the female-only events have a real taint of keeping out the strong performers so the weak can win too. imho it changes things from a primarily female-centric event which happens to cover programming to a people-centric event which forbids the "obviously" superior boys. What better way to make people feel second-class?

> I'm not so naive to think that those were exactly welcoming enviornments for women.

Agreed. But that seems like the problem to solve, by making sure that the events we organize aren't hostile to anyone. But anyone is far wider than women, and the offenders are far more diverse than men.

> I don't really understand what "handicaps" the existence of an all-girl coding camp represents to men or boys.

Not that there is a handicap, but that your son would feel like he's being given one so that he's on equal footing - just because he's male.

> Who is getting really, genuinely hurt by this, in your opinion?

Everyone. Both children, and all of society.

Your daughter would feel less sense of accomplishment, your son would feel that his success is less important to you than hers or that he's already good so why strive. Children of either gender who don't learn in the stereotypical way the group leaders think they should and are thus less-served by the program. Trans kids would suffer from more physical-gender stereotyping and all these gender-specific camps would just prolong gender segregation for everyone.

It's not an either-or question though. I don't think you should ignore traditional sexism, which I agree is huge pretty much everywhere including many classrooms. But I think we should do more-inclusive things, not less, to combat it. Things that help everyone, not that exclude.

There's a real reason to have mentors who look like you, in whatever ways you see yourself, but not I think, to be separated from those who are different.

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First, I assure you my daughter is very real and ceased to be a hypothetical about a year ago ;) As I said earlier, I don't think gender-segregated events should exist in a balanced world, but I don't have a problem with them when there is a great imbalance and they have the potential to tilt that balance back towards equality (by existing temporarily). The whole idea of them is to create an environment welcoming to…

> I assure you my daughter is very real and ceased to be a hypothetical about a year ago Heh. "Hypothetical child or children of unspecified gender". > Calling it "weakness" to gravitate towards something that other members of your gender are doing is misplaced There's a difference between doing something and discovering that most of the people doing it are your gender, and doing something that a higher-power (the ev…

On most of your points we are not too far apart, but I really have to take issue with this:

> Like if the event in question was basketball camps and you put your child in "Basketball for Short & Slow People". All the female-only events have a real taint of keeping out the strong performers so the weak can win too.

An all-girl introductory coding camp is like a baksetball camp for "short & slow" players? Girls are weak when it comes to software and boys are strong?

Learning to code is not a competitive sport. I think it's a really ugly comparison, to be honest. It's all-girl to encourage female participation and has absolutely nothing to do with ability. Any presumptions of ability being brought into the discussion is being injected by your own viewpoints.

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False equivalence in your examples. The gp didn't say he would refuse to go to events that happened to be all girls. He would refuse to present at events that prevented male attendees. The massive difference is being explicitly prevented from joining based on sex, which makes your privilege rant pointless.

No, you just missed the point. You're exactly describing the difference between explicit and systemic discrimination. I will agree that they are "massively" different, because the systemic version has had an effect that is orders of magnitude greater than the explicit/exclusionary Girls-who-code type of camp. There are no explicitly sexist rules encoded in software professions, so why are those professions predominan…

>so why are those professions predominantly occupied by men

Same tired old crap. The profession is predominantly occupied by men because that's the ratio of males/females in graduating classes. You can have all of the male-hating programming clubs you want, but trying to solve some perceived systematic discrimination of an entire profession that reflects the student supply is ignorant sexism.

I applaud anyone who has the integrity to stand up against discriminatory groups like this, particularly when the mainstream discrimination is supported by a lot of people such as yourself.

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> I assure you my daughter is very real and ceased to be a hypothetical about a year ago Heh. "Hypothetical child or children of unspecified gender". > Calling it "weakness" to gravitate towards something that other members of your gender are doing is misplaced There's a difference between doing something and discovering that most of the people doing it are your gender, and doing something that a higher-power (the ev…

On most of your points we are not too far apart, but I really have to take issue with this: > Like if the event in question was basketball camps and you put your child in "Basketball for Short & Slow People". All the female-only events have a real taint of keeping out the strong performers so the weak can win too. An all-girl introductory coding camp is like a baksetball camp for "short & slow" players? Girls are wea…

>Girls are weak when it comes to software and boys are strong?

That's precisely what you are implying by supporting coding camps "for girls"!

Any time you create an event restricted to some group unrelated to skill level, it makes it sound like something inherent to the group makes their abilities different.

Okay:

Python for beginners

Python for intermediate users

Python for data scientists

Not okay:

Python for girls

Python for Jewish people

Python for Black people

Python for Gay people

Python for White people

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