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Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by jondubois »

I don't understand the #DeleteUber trend. Companies only care about profits. There is no news here.

I bet Lyft orchestrated the whole thing... Even if they didn't, they've got their marketing department all hyped up taking advantage of this Uber drama right now (so they are effectively taking advantage of protests too).

Then they have the nerve to present themselves as morally superior. What hypocritical pieces of shit they are. It's painful to live in a world where the majority of people are too damn stupid to see this.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by agumonkey »

fvdessen wrote: post #305
agumonkey wrote: post #282

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Nah man I think he is not. He cannot flip the U.S into a farce like that. The amount of absurdly ridiculous news all over is devaluing the whole nation at light speed. I don't think he will last. I hope not. ---- He just fired a justice head for disagreeing. Apparently his assistant is showing tweets at press conferences.. This is unreal, I have no words.

Not An American, but so far Trump is giving the image of someone who can get things done and tackle difficult problems with practical solutions. I don't really understand the hysteria.

I share this sentiment, partially, I said elsewhere that he might be a "coherent force" whether you agree with his decision, it can put some movement back into the system and make others move to.

That said, every morning I wake up reading the darndest thing about him and I forget my previous paragraph.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by rubber_duck »

Iv wrote: post #317
captainmuon wrote: post #263

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Uber is a company, it is not organized in a union. I would never expect them to participate in a strike and effectively order their drivers to stop working. Just like a taxicab company doesn't participate in the strike, but the drivers do. This is like if Coca Cola workers went on strike, and problem blamed Pespi Co of breaking strike by not sending their workers home??

> This is like if Coca Cola workers went on strike, and problem blamed Pespi Co of breaking strike by not sending their workers home?? Well, yes, that's how a general strike works. You expect every worker in the field to follow. This is not a strike to get better conditions within one company, this is a strike toward a governmental action.

>Well, yes, that's how a general strike works.

You mean how it doesn't work. Cartels eventually fall apart when there's no way of enforcing the rules (no way to force someone to strike) because the incentives to cheat (drive during strike) are high.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by agumonkey »

general_ai wrote: post #308
agumonkey wrote: post #295

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She's a an ex head of Justice, you don't act like that with people who were in charge of your country's pillar. She is knowledgeable, and competent; even if it's 80% defiance, you know she's not the average rebel. Trump just acts like a child removing everything that gets in its way just because he can. I agree with you that he's seen through a biased lens, because he smells like tragedy. His past and now present act…

Doesn't matter who she is. She's not a judge and DOJ is not a part of the judicial branch. Only a judge can stay or overrule an EO. She was way out of line, by a mile, and she got fired for it. Funny as well that when Obama unceremoniously fired James Mattis without even bothering to communicate his decision why, no eyebrows were raised and he wasn't called a 5yo. Mattis's fault? He didn't want us to bomb Iran.

You're right, it's pretty similar, I didn't hear about it until now http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/01/18/the-obama-administration...

Obama's public persona makes the difference in my eyes, he was a more respectful person all along, making weird decisions less problematic in a way. You might say it's irrelevant though.

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Post by phil21 »

brenschluss wrote: post #86
manigandham wrote: post #66

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When has this strategy ever worked? This is not how you appease or bring about change.

How do you think the two-day weekend and the forty-hour week was created? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day

By an hour long unplanned "strike" called for with hours worth of notice?

Yeah, didn't think so. This conversation is getting absurd at this point.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by prodigal_erik »

skyrw wrote: post #224
ntumlin wrote: post #79

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To be fair, many Trump supporters are in areas where ride sharing services aren't nearly as popular as the generally left-leaning cities.

Or they can afford private drivers

If you're rich, you probably benefited from free trade and mass immigration. Trump's base are the people who suffered the most from these trends.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by _xhok »

kkhire wrote: post #44
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #36

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The sole point I'll argue in this thread is "so did Lyft". If you're boycotting all ridesharing apps in favour of licensed taxis, that's one thing. But deleting Uber and installing Lyft is misguided.

"I'm #deletingUber to show how anti-Trump I am!" uses Peter Thiel backed Lyft instead funny thing is, Trump supporters are now deleting Lyft in favor of uber. nobody does an ounce of research anymore.

If anything, I think people assign too much weight to "sending a message" or "taking a stance." Thiel backed both Trump and Lyft! Down with Lyft! Uber wouldn't go along with some strike! Disavow! YC works with a Trump supporter! Fire him!

Apparently the latest outrage on Twitter is over Elon Musk's condemnation of Trump's order not being tough enough. They're mad at him for trying to convince Trump to modify his proposal, because "making compromises with the opponent validates them," and he's being "morally cowardly." Well, ok. But at this point the order is (unless the ACLU wins) a reality, and the pragmatic thing to do is to work within the bounds of reality to make things better. Would these people rather he not do that, just to show that he's "standing with them"?

I have an increasing suspicion that the word "solidarity" is becoming a word the means less and less. As far as I can tell, when applied to public figures, it mostly means sending the message that you care. I wish we'd care less about messaging, and more about what works.

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Post by mcv »

hueving wrote: post #221
kkhire wrote: post #44

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"I'm #deletingUber to show how anti-Trump I am!" uses Peter Thiel backed Lyft instead funny thing is, Trump supporters are now deleting Lyft in favor of uber. nobody does an ounce of research anymore.

>nobody does an ounce of research anymore This is true of the vast majority of activists in any political cause. Most join as social signaling to their community that they are "one of them". Case in point, almost nobody interviewed for occupy Wallstreet could even agree on what the goal of the group was. Particularly in this case, showing support is literally as simple as installing an app that does almost the exact…

> almost nobody interviewed for occupy Wallstreet could even agree on what the goal of the group was.

Protests are rarely about setting policy. They're about voicing their disagreement. Even if people at Occupy Wallstreet (and many other protests) can't agree on the solution, they do tend to agree on the problem.

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Post by noir_lord »

cderwin wrote: post #315
noir_lord wrote: post #287

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We seem to have largely moved passed the concept of nuance, knee jerk reactions and virtual signalling in place of reasoned responses. Its dangerous when all sides don't consider the others viewpoints at all.

It's lonely to consider the other side these days. Dare to consider Trump's side? You're a fascist. Dare to consider the progressive side? You're a communist. It's no wonder nobody does it anymore.

Indeed, also considering someones viewpoint doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

Its quite reasonable to find it abhorrent, just don't take it as abhorrent because other people to you that it is.

I like statistics and politics, I dig into the numbers and the actual reports behind news stories and the agendas are so obvious, I get the reasons why, in the UK newspapers are sold on outrage and worldview confirmation first and second and facts about sixth.

I don't believe there was ever a golden age of media but I do think they had more integrity in the past.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by mcv »

concinds wrote: post #229
SomeStupidPoint wrote: post #208

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The person in charge is only in charge because we agree to it. Not agreeing -- and refusing to give them your influence -- is the only way bad leaders are ever removed.

That's preposterous, he's in charge for the next 4 years and nothing (even impeachment) will change that, since he'll just get replaced and his agenda continued. This "legitimacy" and "normalization" talk is just as post-factual as anything Trump ever said. Is Bernie a fascist for saying he would work with the Trump admin on the good parts of his agenda?

No, if he gets replaced, Trump's agenda won't continue. It'll be Mike Pence's agenda that will replace his.
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