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Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

rodelrod wrote: post #64
bandrami wrote: post #11

Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

Evernote, sqlyog, MS Office (for compatibility or the more sophisticated functionality of Excel). Adobe stuff I run on virtualbox. I have to use Playonlinux and certain versions of the products to make everything work right.

Even with Play On Linux [1] I've found it a lot of hassle to try and run games through WINE.

For example I had a whole set of Tom Clancy games (Ghost Recon, Rainbow Five, etc.) running through WINE. Of course I noted how I got them running on the WINE Appdb. Then a couple of years later needed to reinstall - had upgraded OS, changed video card, etc. - and spent ages trying but ultimately failed. WINE's db had been cleaned and removed my reports, handy; and PoL just wouldn't work (possibly the APU??) despite reports to the contrary.

Sad, when ones knows these things can work. Even sadder with more modern games when the distributor/producers won't mess with WINE so the player doesn't have to.

tl;dr when PoL works it's great.

[1] https://www.playonlinux.com/en/

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #104
rodelrod wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Evernote, sqlyog, MS Office (for compatibility or the more sophisticated functionality of Excel). Adobe stuff I run on virtualbox. I have to use Playonlinux and certain versions of the products to make everything work right.

How is MS Office on Wine these days?

Still illegal I presume.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by SwellJoe »

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #111
LordKano wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's just the crotchety old man part of my personality but I don't like anything after Office 2003. The ribbon interface is a deal breaker for me.

Whippersnappers with their newfangled stuff. Office was done with the 1997 version. Although the late 80s Word and Excel for Mac would do perfectly well for 95% of today's users.

Office 97 is the last version I ever bought or used. I used it for a decade, or so, to open those few files that didn't work quite right in OpenOffice (or AbiWord or KWord or whatever other program I was using back then on Linux). I'm glad I haven't had to open MS Office in about a decade. These days, I keep LibreOffice installed, but use it maybe a couple of times a year; Google Docs does everything I need.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by rrdharan »

timeu wrote: post #76
rrdharan wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use it to run the 1Password app on Ubuntu.

I was considering of using it also. How good is it ? Are there any differences, restrictions ? Currently I use the 1password web version.

It's a bit of a slog:

(1) You have to get Wine working, which can be kind of a hassle - there are a million different guides and ways to configure Wine especially wnen you factor in 32-bit versus 64-bit, winetricks, staging versus devel, etc.

It's hard to sort through all the potential ways and figure out the simplest thing to do, which is basically:

$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wine/wine-builds

$ sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-devel

$ wine ~/Downloads/1Password-4.6.1.617.exe

(2) The password helper won't automatically start, so you have to choose "Restart 1Password Helper" from the Help menu after you start the main application.

Then assuming you want to use the browser extensions,

(3) You have to disable browser signature verification under Help->Advanced (while you're at it you might as well "tune for performance").

(4) The browser extension shortcut keys won't work, so you have to click the extension button instead of simply hitting Ctrl-\.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by chongli »

neckro23 wrote: post #59
bandrami wrote: post #11

Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

Playing Spelunky on my Macbook. No, really. It's pretty killer for running older / less demanding games. Lots of older games work better in Wine than they do in modern Windows, if at all. Also, for some indie games with half-assed Mac ports I've found it's often better to just run the Windows version in Wine. I suppose it works with productive Windows apps too...

Yes! I love playing Spelunky SD with my friend. I run it through Wine on Arch Linux and he's on Windows. It works flawlessly!

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by speeder »

bandrami wrote: post #11

Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

I use Wine on... Windows, to play some games.

Windows 8 and onwards seemly have some bugs in DirectX9 or less, and although seemly there is Microsoft employees trying to fix those bugs, those bugs are years old and still exist.

Some games when using Wine, work correctly... For example on my Win 8.1 laptop Wine dlls were the only way to play "Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magicka Obscura" (without the dlls, the game would render half of the screen black, and the other half flickering like crazy).

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by xanderstrike »

Cacti wrote: post #93

What is the technical use case for Wine these days? Are we basically talking running certain Windows applications on Linux, at reasonable framerates, using hardware that doesn't support full virtualization pass-through? In other words, if you've got virtualization support, and pcie pass-through support, why not just run this stuff through a Windows VM?

I don't have to buy a windows license to run windows software.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by harperlee »

bandrami wrote: post #11

Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

The Witness.

I've heard that it is a magnificent game, but it is written with Direct3D 11, and although this Wine release notice states that "More Direct3D 10 and 11 features are implemented" and "Direct3D 11 feature levels are supported.", it doesn't seem to work yet (in "https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iI... they state that it didn't work a month ago with Wine 2.0-rc1).

I have both linux and macos, but no windows computer apart from the work one - and this particular game doesn't seem to work in a VM (https://steamcommunity.com/app/210970/discussions/0/45860751...), with Wine, or in any other way except a native Windows installation.

In any case, Wine is superb work so I can't complain (except for John Blow's commercial decision). At least I have the hope that I will eventually be able to play without the need to buy a dedicated computer!

Thanks Wine team!

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Post by ww520 »

excalibur wrote: post #20

> The main highlights are the support for Microsoft Office 2013, and the 64-bit support on macOS. This made me chuckle. Better late than never I suppose.

Office 2013 is amazingly uptodate support. I still use Office 2010 and it's way more than adequate.
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