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Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

bisby wrote: post #87
laumars wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logos fall more in the realm of graphic design rather than typography. They're an avatar thus logos don't necessarily need to be readable - albeit there is a modern trend to use the company name in an interesting typeface as their logo. However there are plenty of examples where a company logo contains no text what-so-ever - including Mozilla's previous logo[1]. So I wouldn't get too hung up on its typographic design…

You dont remember when people got confused and always called Mozilla 'red dinosaur head' because the logo was confusing?

This isn't a logo, it's a stylised name, they serve different purposes. Consider Indesit, they style their name but have a useful logo that can stand alone.

Mozilla could do with an actual logo, something that fits with the Thunderbird & Firefox logos.

Edit: Having looked at the other designs I think they chose correctly, but perhaps needed a "none of the above" option. This https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/now-for-the-fun-part/#co... gets closer.

Perhaps they wanted something that worked just using text, I guess. Maybe 2017 will be the year of leet-speak on the desktop!?!

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

db48x wrote: post #150
datenwolf wrote: post #23

Until now I didn't realize Mozilla changed their logo. Now I've seen it the typographer in me cries… The whole purpose of text is to _unambigously_ convey information. So either Mozilla now rebrands themself as moz-colon-slash-slash or they now live with a significant portion of typography-anal nerds who dislike that logo.

You're not going to like the curl logo either, then.

They go together really poorly. If Moz://a is the Mozilla logo then presumably Curl:// is the Curlill logo ... which it isn't, they follow different paradigms.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by type0 »

wott wrote: post #67
toxican wrote: post #42

While I don't like the branding move at all, I think the concern that people will start calling them moz-colon-forward-slash-forwadslash-a is a little ridiculous. Is Sony's line of laptops Analog Wave One Zero? Is Verizon Verizoncheckmark? Is Johnson & Johnson Johnson ampersand Johnson? Is Comcast CComcast? No, because people aren't complete idiots. Those that are going to know/care about Mozilla will be able to tell…

> No, because people aren't complete idiots. Sweet summer child. http://www.gentside.com/le-bon-coin/le-bon-coin-un-ordinateu... http://i.imgur.com/4nMqG8C.png http://www.jofogas.hu/veszprem/Sony_mio_laptop_elado_6040346... http://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/sony-mio-pcg-6e1m-laptop-o... https://www.olx.in/item/sony-wio-laptop-ID19koWZ.html

I used both snsv and Jade laptops, I think snsv is by far a better brand

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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type0 wrote: post #153
wott wrote: post #67

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> No, because people aren't complete idiots. Sweet summer child. http://www.gentside.com/le-bon-coin/le-bon-coin-un-ordinateu... http://i.imgur.com/4nMqG8C.png http://www.jofogas.hu/veszprem/Sony_mio_laptop_elado_6040346... http://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/sony-mio-pcg-6e1m-laptop-o... https://www.olx.in/item/sony-wio-laptop-ID19koWZ.html

I used both snsv and Jade laptops, I think snsv is by far a better brand

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Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by mypalmike »

jcranmer wrote: post #104
mypalmike wrote: post #27

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Indeed. And on the code side, implementing this gimmick involves 115 lines of new code across 9 files. https://reviewboard.mozilla.org/r/105654/diff/1#index_header

Half of those changes are actually just tests that it works correctly The first three files are the only ones that are doing any useful work, and then the last one makes sure that it works in anything other than a local build.

1 LOC is 1 LOC to be maintained, be it test or otherwise.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by xg15 »

XaspR8d wrote: post #69
Someone1234 wrote: post #41

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Are any of those registered with the IANA?

Yep, though most of them are "provisional", which means it isn't a formal or permanent definition. Here's the full list: https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xht...

Thank you for the link. I wouldn't have believes there are that many URI schemes in existence though...

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by type0 »

Since Mozilla is a combination of Mosaic + Godzilla, the only good logo for them should have been a dinosaur image laid out in mosaic, that's it. This :// thing is more of a s://y marketing than anything else.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by JadeNB »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #57
roryisok wrote: post #26

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> The whole purpose of text is to _unambigously_ convey information I don't know if its ironic that this sentence had a typo and some non-working markdown Anyway, the purpose of text may be to unambiguously convey information, but the purpose of a logo is to look cool and be memorable

Fwiw, the Markdown works just fine. Hackernews doesn't support Markdown. I'm not sure what you call this weird thing that HN does support.. but it's certainly not markdown.

> I'm not sure what you call this weird thing that HN does support.. but it's certainly not markdown.

Markaround.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by toyg »

amooiman wrote: post #76
matt4077 wrote: post #51

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Quote, to maybe nib the ritual hatred in the bud before mozilla becomes the new Apple: "A logo that not only DOESN’T suck but one that has a strong idea, a fresh execution, a promising flexibility, and, that all of it together, sometimes subtly and sometimes overtly, manages to communicate what Mozilla is about." Now if only someone would write an article explaining why considerations such as branding are useful even…

The general idea is that 90% of people I tell "I work for Mozilla" respond with "Oh, you work on Firefox?" but we're about so much more than that. My understanding of the motives behind this change is that having better branding that explains we're focused on the internet in general will hopefully expand our reach and recognition outside the tech bubble.

> but we're about so much more than that

And to fix that, you've made your name ungoogleable. Good job!

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