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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#131

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So we need a cloud service for "read receipts"? Interesting.

Since those are accomplished via a tracking pixel in the email and you need to serve that image from a public server, then yes, you'll need a cloud service to run that. As stated before, you can choose to run that server yourself if you don't trust Nylas with that kind of data.

Neither MS Outlook nor GMail use a tracking pixel.

Such pixel are only used by newsletter or shaddy spam senders.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#132
How about not tracking anything? How about not using a shitty Electron app and calling it "the best email client ever"?

Edit: Oh, and for the downvoting/Electron-loving folks out there, Electron is the best and All hail Elon Musk!

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#133
post #29

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The trouble isn't electron/webkit, it's the tonne of JavaScript frameworks that are used to emulate what HTTP already does very efficiently (pages, links, requests, responses, etc.). One day someone will build a good Electron app.

I still do not understand the fascination with JavaScript. SPAs, desktop apps like Electron, server-side stuff with Node, I just don't get it. JavaScript is the worst tool for the vast majority of these things. It brings us enough pain as the only practical client-side language on the web. Who deals with that and says "I need to write my server (or worse, desktop app) in this, and you know what, I'm going to now bast…

In all fronts is the worst, except easy of build a cross-platform GUI (not necessarily native looking!). The thing is that is easy to get the basic widgets cross-platform but in the moment you need custom widgets or easy styling html/css just is easier.

I wish exist a native renderer that could use a (saner, better) subset of html/css that fit the same use case, then let us use any better language for the logic.

Probably OpenGL toolkits are the idea, but it way to operate and looks are weird.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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post #21

Hey HN-- I'm the author of this post. Feel free to post questions! We are a very small team building this app. Hopefully you can focus on what's new/good and not what is left to do! :) If you find bugs, please post them here: https://github.com/nylas/n1/issues/

It looks nice. I don't have a mac so I can't test until you finish your release for the other platforms, but my question is about your marketing copy. I almost hate to badger you about this since the product looks nice, but I've got to ask about this line, "...the most powerful email client ever built"? That's a pretty bold claim and it makes my baloney detector go off. My suspicion is that it almost certainly isn't…

Buddy? Is that you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUPDRnUWeBA

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still do not understand the fascination with JavaScript. SPAs, desktop apps like Electron, server-side stuff with Node, I just don't get it. JavaScript is the worst tool for the vast majority of these things. It brings us enough pain as the only practical client-side language on the web. Who deals with that and says "I need to write my server (or worse, desktop app) in this, and you know what, I'm going to now bast…

In all fronts is the worst, except easy of build a cross-platform GUI (not necessarily native looking!). The thing is that is easy to get the basic widgets cross-platform but in the moment you need custom widgets or easy styling html/css just is easier. I wish exist a native renderer that could use a (saner, better) subset of html/css that fit the same use case, then let us use any better language for the logic. Prob…

JavaScript is NOT the first language to provide cross-platform GUI. Such toolkits are very old. Gtk, Qt, wxWidgets, and many others serve this functionality and have bindings across dozens of languages. There is no reason to use JavaScript just so you can get a "cross platform GUI".

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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I had the exact same experience. I see this sort of issue commonly. Surprising companies don't just link you back to their homepage when they promote their product with a blog. Seems like an obvious thing to do.

It's incredibly common to not have a link to their homepage—I have no idea why.

Some SEO probably decided it was better not to have a blog link back to the home page, and that it was OK for user experience to be sacrificed.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#138

I do understand the need for a better modern open source email client (not trying to start any kind of client war here), but I really want something that doesn't rely on an external server. 1 - any suggestions for an open source alternative that provides email snoozing on linux (that's a big part of my email processing)? 2 - any good guide on how to self host the Nylas server on my home server (I know they have the p…

hey

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#139
post #8

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

I think the answer is Mutt. For me, the editor is what stops me from switching. Does it still require you to shell out to an external editor to send a mail? There was an amazing mail client for (of all things) FidoNet back in the 90s called GoldEd that was amazing. It had threaded message display, a great editor, pleasant colors, etc. It was tailored to that network, however. Would love to find something like this fo…

I am a very loyal mutt user. Coupled with mbsync (for offline imap) and notmuch (for indexing, threading and address completion) I think it's a great MUA.

I obsessively measure wakeups/s in powertop for every application I use, and the above setup is very good.

If you want to try other things you can look into the mutt-kz fork (which replaces internal search commands with notmuch).

There is also a notmuch curses client, but I find mutt+notmuch superior.

Mu is a notmuch alternative worth considering. Their emacs client is excellent.

Finally, also if you use emacs, gnus is perhaps the most powerful email client ever. Steep learning curve, though. It's a bit different to everything else, as gnus has been built as a news reader. It treats mail as news, but this has some great advantages I think, as long as you can adapt your mindset. Also Org integration.

Gnus is the only thing that might make me switch away from mutt.

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