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Nylas Mail is now free

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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

Tepix wrote: post #12
grinich wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You actually can add any IMAP server. We just haven't tested all of them, so we're only officially supporting a few at launch. Here's how to do it: http://imgur.com/a/WBdXe (I work at Nylas.)

So it's closed source, by a US company (subject to NSLs, violating foreigners rights etc) and they get a copy of all my mails? At least that's what it sounds like.

The cloud service is also open source, like the client. And they specifically said in this blog post they've actually reduced the dependence on the sync engine, the client now connects directly to mail providers, and the cloud service is needed only for specific features of Nylas.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by sachinag »

romanovcode wrote: post #22

Wait, so Nylas was free, then it was paid and now it's free again? Did I understand correctly?

Nylas Basic is free forever. We hope you'll like it so much that you'll upgrade to Pro.

Essentially, we started as a free beta at the very beginning, launched with free trial last year, and now have switched to freemium (with a free trial on the Pro version still there).

Does that make sense?

(I work at Nylas.)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by lj3 »

cookiecaper wrote: post #64
g105b wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The trouble isn't electron/webkit, it's the tonne of JavaScript frameworks that are used to emulate what HTTP already does very efficiently (pages, links, requests, responses, etc.). One day someone will build a good Electron app.

I still do not understand the fascination with JavaScript. SPAs, desktop apps like Electron, server-side stuff with Node, I just don't get it. JavaScript is the worst tool for the vast majority of these things. It brings us enough pain as the only practical client-side language on the web. Who deals with that and says "I need to write my server (or worse, desktop app) in this, and you know what, I'm going to now bast…

Javascript gets used everywhere because it successfully commoditized programming. It requires very little knowledge to get it to work, so anybody can pick it up without much effort. For businesses, this means an endless supply of cheap labor. Most people here on HN and elsewhere believe this is a good thing. It furthers their dreams of programming becoming a basic literacy, like english and math.

Keep in mind I don't agree with the above at all, but this is what a lot of people believe.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by sachinag »

lnx01 wrote: post #7
janlukacs wrote: post #5

Does all email still go through their servers?

Apparently on the basic version it connects directly to your mail servers without going through Nylas' cloud. But there are a couple of features which still require the cloud to funtion, snooze etc.

This is exactly right.

(I work at Nylas.)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by grinich »

vittore wrote: post #43

I am not sure how much faster it is right now, but last time I tried N1 just hanged when i plugged in my gmail account ( it just have like 8-10gigs of emails for last god knows how many years). But that is what happen to pretty much any mail client I tried on mac. I end up using only inbox in the browser/android.

It is much much much much much faster now. :)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by jbmorgado »

I do understand the need for a better modern open source email client (not trying to start any kind of client war here), but I really want something that doesn't rely on an external server.

1 - any suggestions for an open source alternative that provides email snoozing on linux (that's a big part of my email processing)?

2 - any good guide on how to self host the Nylas server on my home server (I know they have the project on GitHub but the instructions are a bit too complicated for me, although that's perhaps my sysadmin skills are quite low)?

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by ashark »

athenot wrote: post #40
romanovcode wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, maybe if author would charge 7 bucks in total instead of 7 bucks per month he would not have this problem.

I have not used Nylas but if email is a tool that is integral to your productivity, paying for a tool that helps you is not a far-fetched idea. It's the same as with text editors. There are plenty available for free but if there's one that happens to help you in your work, paying less than 0.1% of your income can hardly qualify as excessive. At $7/month, if this tool saves you 10 minutes a month, it's worth it.

Maybe I'm weird, but it's worth more than 10min/month to me not to have another recurring charge on my CC, before the amount of money is even considered.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by karim »

shreve wrote: post #54
yoasif_ wrote: post #39

Is there a build available which doesn't require users to sign up for a Nylas ID? The support page states that "If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID." Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can "make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book", it doesn't feel li…

That's an integral part of how it works. Their sync servers download your email, then sync with your local client. You need that ID to log into their server and access your individual email accounts.

Hey – I'm an engineer at Nylas. This used to be true but Nylas Mail now uses a totally client-side sync engine.

If you're on the Basic edition, your emails never touch our servers. This was a huge undertaking (it's not easy to port a sync-engine written in Python and designed to run on servers to run efficiently on desktop machines) and is the major reason why we can now offer a freemium service. We're going to put out a blog post soon with more engineering details soon!

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