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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by StavrosK »

lj3 wrote: post #95
cookiecaper wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still do not understand the fascination with JavaScript. SPAs, desktop apps like Electron, server-side stuff with Node, I just don't get it. JavaScript is the worst tool for the vast majority of these things. It brings us enough pain as the only practical client-side language on the web. Who deals with that and says "I need to write my server (or worse, desktop app) in this, and you know what, I'm going to now bast…

Javascript gets used everywhere because it successfully commoditized programming. It requires very little knowledge to get it to work, so anybody can pick it up without much effort. For businesses, this means an endless supply of cheap labor. Most people here on HN and elsewhere believe this is a good thing. It furthers their dreams of programming becoming a basic literacy, like english and math. Keep in mind I don't…

> Javascript gets used everywhere because it successfully commoditized programming

PHP would like a word.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by sachinag »

artursapek wrote: post #75

I open the page and have no idea what Nylas is. I click on the logo and I'm taken to the blog home page, where 60% of the screen is the Nylas logo with no subheader telling me what it is. I click on it again and it just refreshes the blog index. No link to nylas.com. How do so many people make the same mistake?

Good call - we updated the blog post with a link to https://nylas.com at the beginning. (Oh, Medium, you can be so fickle.)

(I work at Nylas.)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by notwhereyouare »

Fnoord wrote: post #78
ilSignorCarlo wrote: post #4

I used Nylas for a while and really liked it, until they they forced everyone to pay $7 per month to use it. Here's the original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11553738

> I used Nylas for a while and really liked it, until they they forced everyone to pay $7 per month to use it. Sorry, but that isn't a fair way of describing what occurred. Nylas is a startup, trying to figure out a business model which works for them. You're not yet forced to pay. If you had a Nylas ID back when Pro was announced you got a gratis year of subscription. Now, they released a gratis version once more, c…

> If you had a Nylas ID back when Pro was announced you got a gratis year of subscription.

If you didn't, you had to pay.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by maglavaitss »

e0m wrote: post #106
yoasif_ wrote: post #39

Is there a build available which doesn't require users to sign up for a Nylas ID? The support page states that "If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID." Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can "make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book", it doesn't feel li…

Nylas Mail Basic does NOT store your mail data in the cloud. It still uses a cloud service for some features (like read receipts), but all the data is local on your disk and auth credentials stored in your native OS keychain. Nylas Pro currently syncs in the cloud to enable some of the pro features not currently offered in Nylas Mail Basic and to provide a much easier to use modern API wrapper around mail data. The c…

So we need a cloud service for "read receipts"? Interesting.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by wazoox »

wslh wrote: post #47
gnufied wrote: post #8

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

Sylpheed? http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ screenshots here: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/screenshot.html

Actually Claws is even geekier (used to be sylpheed-claws): http://claws-mail.org/

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by sreenadh »

yoasif_ wrote: post #39

Is there a build available which doesn't require users to sign up for a Nylas ID? The support page states that "If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID." Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can "make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book", it doesn't feel li…

This was exact issue I was having with Nylas. I dont understand why they want me to sign up with their server. I switched back to thunderbird now.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by OJFord »

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #31

After signing up for Nylas Mail, I started getting daily "marketing email" (spam) from them. It really added insult to the injury already caused by the Linux app being horribly slow, buggy, and power-hungry.

You can turn it off in preferences. (Although I guess if you got rid of the app, you'd have to install it again to do that! No unsubscribe link?)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by e0m »

ilSignorCarlo wrote: post #4

I used Nylas for a while and really liked it, until they they forced everyone to pay $7 per month to use it. Here's the original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11553738

Now it's free!

Nylas Mail Basic was designed exactly with this in mind. It's a free client, syncs locally, and does not include a lot of the Pro features that power users save a lot of time with.

On the flip side, we've designed Nylas Pro (and its price point) for users who are coming from the productivity world of ToutApp or YesWare. The goal with Pro isn't to merely be another Thunderbird or Mac Mail. We're focused on building new powerful workflows for people who live all day in their mailbox, calendar, and address book.

(I build Nylas Mail)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by timdorr »

maglavaitss wrote: post #114
e0m wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nylas Mail Basic does NOT store your mail data in the cloud. It still uses a cloud service for some features (like read receipts), but all the data is local on your disk and auth credentials stored in your native OS keychain. Nylas Pro currently syncs in the cloud to enable some of the pro features not currently offered in Nylas Mail Basic and to provide a much easier to use modern API wrapper around mail data. The c…

So we need a cloud service for "read receipts"? Interesting.

Since those are accomplished via a tracking pixel in the email and you need to serve that image from a public server, then yes, you'll need a cloud service to run that. As stated before, you can choose to run that server yourself if you don't trust Nylas with that kind of data.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by artursapek »

cwyers wrote: post #104
artursapek wrote: post #75

I open the page and have no idea what Nylas is. I click on the logo and I'm taken to the blog home page, where 60% of the screen is the Nylas logo with no subheader telling me what it is. I click on it again and it just refreshes the blog index. No link to nylas.com. How do so many people make the same mistake?

Yeah. You'd think that Nylas would want an announcement like this to reach new users; why not throw a paragraph up front explaining what they are?

And then they A/B test button colors and wonder why their user base isn't growing fast enough, lol.
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