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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by wowtip »

wongarsu wrote: post #134
gkya wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bookmarks and tabs are there already in all major OSS browsers.

Bookmarks and tabs are far from being easy, solved problems. For example adding a Firefox addon to display tabs vertically in a tree structure instead of a horizontal list has changed the way I use the internet (and I have always used a lot of tabs). In the end tabs are just like booksmarks, except that they keep state during a browsing session. I find it very weird that we keep those very similar concepts in complet…

> For example adding a Firefox addon to display tabs vertically in a tree structure instead of a horizontal list has changed the way I use the internet

Sounds interesting, which extension would that be?

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by smsm42 »

gkya wrote: post #107
rospaya wrote: post #71

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So you don't use bookmarks or tabs?

Bookmarks and tabs are there already in all major OSS browsers.

They are "in" there, but they are very far from being perfect. Managing bookmarks is a constant pain, and most browsers don't even offer things as simple as watching if bookmark has gone bad, let alone any added-value services. Tabs are not spectacular either - I regularly keep dozens of tabs open, and no browser I've seen handles this scenario very well, most just show something like "ok, you've got a lot of tabs, guess which is which". Handling them better, separating by importance, supporting grouping etc. - haven't see it anywhere. I'm sure there are also other places browser experience could be improved.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by isxek »

wowtip wrote: post #191
wongarsu wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bookmarks and tabs are far from being easy, solved problems. For example adding a Firefox addon to display tabs vertically in a tree structure instead of a horizontal list has changed the way I use the internet (and I have always used a lot of tabs). In the end tabs are just like booksmarks, except that they keep state during a browsing session. I find it very weird that we keep those very similar concepts in complet…

> For example adding a Firefox addon to display tabs vertically in a tree structure instead of a horizontal list has changed the way I use the internet Sounds interesting, which extension would that be?

Could be Tree Style Tabs (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...) or Tab Tree (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-tree/).

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by roryisok »

hackuser wrote: post #168
roryisok wrote: post #47

I use Opera as my main browser right now because I want a webkit browser without google using it to spy on me. Glad to see they're still innovating

Does Opera collect data on users? Also, what about Brave?

Maybe Opera collects data on users, I don't know. Probably. Maybe I'm naive but I trust them more than Google.

I'd forgotten all about brave since the launch, must try it out.

Both brave and opera have built in ad blockers. I admire the effort but in practice the opera one is not as good as ublock. Ublock blocks ads but also blocks trash like taboola, which is not technically advertising, but is far more insidious.

And ublock is available for opera, not sure about brave. Must try it today

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by kk_cz »

StavrosK wrote: post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Call me an old fart, but I am completely satisfied with the way Firefox works now, at least in terms of UI. Sure, replace Gecko with Quantum if you will, upgrade the javascript engine, but please don't fuck up the UI.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by soylentcola »

ryanSrich wrote: post #93
dgrealy wrote: post #46

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One thing that bites me occasionally with the current browsers is when I'm closing a lot of tabs with cmd-w but go too far and accidentally close the last one and loose the window. Windows close with cmd shift w so this behavior makes sense to me. I like your attention to those shortcuts though I think we have similar standards:)

Command shift T will bring back a window that has been closed (at least of Mac, I'm sure there's some macro on Windows).

It's CTRL-SHIFT-T on Windows but same idea.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by mkhpalm »

Well this is kinda cool. I wouldn't use it (in its current state anyway), but it's cool. It seems like they're trying to turn a browser in to a type of desktop, kinda like Chrome OS I guess. My first impressions though are the left sidebar is incredibly unresponsive, and both the left and right sidebar need to be able to be hidden so the browser window isn't so small.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by [deleted] »

sprokolopolis wrote: post #174

This is a really neat concept that seems to be inspired by some of the mobile browsers out there. Flynx, Flyperlink and Link Bubble all use the (facebook-chathead-style) bubbles that sit over other apps and the UI. They are very convenient on mobile and allow you to do other things, while pages are loading. In my opinion, this browser consumes too much screen space with the browser windows being smaller windows insid…

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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by gcp »

pvg wrote: post #165
gcp wrote: post #153

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it's probably cheaper now to compete in the browser space than ever In the browser space, yes. In the API and platform space, no. Every other browser has already resigned to just "do what Chrome does" instead of expecting Chrome to confirm to the standards as written. Do you not see how this is a huge hedge for Google? You control the platform and APIs, you rule the world. Microsoft used to understand this very well.…

Do you not see how this is a huge hedge for Google? You control the platform and APIs, you rule the world. Why do you think I don't see that? On top of that, if you have to compete in the browser space by forking off of Google's rendering engine and web platform, you're always going to be behind. Why? That's certainly not what happened with Google's browser.

Why? That's certainly not what happened with Google's browser.

Because they can outspend you in engineering resources to push forward, and working with someone elses stack is a burden, not a blessing, if the other side moves more quickly (and forces you to rebase).

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by tomc1985 »

satysin wrote: post #164
tomc1985 wrote: post #117

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Why does it have to be constantly changing? What some see as stagnant, others see as completeness Honestly I don't want new features on Chrome or Firefox. They are fine how they are -- though I wish Mozilla would take out the value-added services they just had to add. Release security updates and that's it

With that attitude we would never see any progress with software though.

How much "progress" is really necessary?
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