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Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by mverwijs »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #106
lqdc13 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No secret chats in Telegram Desktop means its primary selling point is lost.

The encryption is often cited as its primary selling point here, but I don't think that's too representative. Certainly it isn't for me and most other Telegram users I know. I don't care much about that as I don't really trust any messaging app enough to send really confidential information through them. For me, for example, he selling point is having an interface as slick as Whatsapp's, but not being tied to the pho…

Telegram most certainly required me to enter mobile phone number. (Wouldn't even take a landline!)

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by jaflo »

chrisan wrote: post #160
disiplus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i like the whatsapp web because i dont have to install something now just so i could send a message to somebody, and because its a proxy for the phone app i dont have to worry that i got the message on the desktop but its not synced to mobile ( im looking at you skype )

You can use a web version of telegram: https://telegram.org/

https://web.telegram.org/

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by Kipters »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #138
lqdc13 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No secret chats in Telegram Desktop means its primary selling point is lost.

I'm confused, how are there no secret chats? I use them all the time from Desktop.. but maybe you mean Windows? I don't recall trying them from Windows - i use the OSX version. Secret chats on OSX has the same UX as secret chats on my Android client, fwiw.

You're probably using the Mac app. The post is about the Telegram Desktop cross-platform app, that doesn't support secret chats.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

#165

Post by ParadoxOryx »

mverwijs wrote: post #161
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The encryption is often cited as its primary selling point here, but I don't think that's too representative. Certainly it isn't for me and most other Telegram users I know. I don't care much about that as I don't really trust any messaging app enough to send really confidential information through them. For me, for example, he selling point is having an interface as slick as Whatsapp's, but not being tied to the pho…

Telegram most certainly required me to enter mobile phone number. (Wouldn't even take a landline!)

I think they are referring to the username functionality that Telegram has — https://telegram.org/faq#q-what-are-usernames-how-do-i-get-o...

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

#166

Post by ivm »

akjainaj wrote: post #14
Philipp__ wrote: post #4

Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.

It's Qt by the way, and it's good on the three platforms. This is the GitHub repo. https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop Development has always looked a bit fishy to me, though. The main developer is anonymous (using the name/pic of a TV character), maybe it's even several people using the same profile.

> It's Qt by the way, and it's good on the three platforms.

I can't call "good" no accessibility support on macOS. But anyway Telegram Desktop is not the primary client for Macs, they have Cocoa-based alternative: https://macos.telegram.org/

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by CiPHPerCoder »

lucb1e wrote: post #22
sneak wrote: post #6

PSA: Telegram is dangerous snake oil—bad crypto. Don't use it, don't let friends use it. https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/81899003583181619... https://twitter.com/kaepora/status/819181464369577984 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/81919238137120358...

> PSA: Telegram is dangerous snake oil 1. They don't claim to do end to end crypto unless you use the secret chats 2. The secret chats still aren't broken. Since 2013, I'd think at least one "crypto expert" (which all said a custom protocol was a bad idea) would have taken the effort to prove it by now. 3. Whatsapp claims to have better encryption, and they probably do, but it's 1) a lot less convenient and 2) unveri…

> 2. The secret chats still aren't broken. Since 2013, I'd think at least one "crypto expert" (which all said a custom protocol was a bad idea) would have taken the effort to prove it by now.

https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1177.pdf

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

#169

Post by lightedman »

lightedman wrote: post #168

Did they actually include a functional contact list this time? That's why I ditched it like a hot potato each time they had an update and I tried it.

NOPE. Still the same useless contact list. Even AOL Instant Messenger, 20+ years old, manages to get this right.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

#170

Post by napoleond »

tptacek wrote: post #150
napoleond wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

`tptacek is being obtuse, but it really is pretty straightforward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompiler

It's a forward tick: 'tptacek. We're not writing Lisp macros. :)

So you concede that you were being obtuse ;)
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