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How can you know for sure?
By looking at the code.
but it's closed-source, so we can't do that
Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
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Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
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It doesn't seem so: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/871
To clarify: secret chats have been present on Telegram as a platform for a long time. The desktop client doesn't seem to support them though. This often leads to people saying things like "Telegram doesn't have end-to-end encryption". Really, what they mean is that it's not the default and isn't on all platforms. Most people can use it if they want to though because it's available on all major mobile OSes.
What is this "Desktop Client", i don't get it -_-
I use the Telegram app on my OSX Laptop, and i use Secret chats. They seem identical to my Android secret chats. What am i missing?
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
#143Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.
I don't get it. Why is native better than browser application? Browser application is by definition better sandboxed and can do much less damage to the system. Normal application can do mayhem. And Telegram needs root access for installation... do I want to give it root access? When I can just open another tab?
Telegram Desktop doesn't need root access for installation. It's just a tar.xz file you can extract anywhere.
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
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I'm not a fan because if I have 50 electron apps I have 50 builds of chromium/nodejs. This is bad because: * Lot of wasted disk space. * Each app loads a whole chromium/nodejs: lots of wasted RAM. * The chromiums may not all be the latest. This could be bad if those have network exposure: https://sobersecurity.blogspot.mx/2017/01/looks-like-you-hav...
They're also bad platform citizens. Even in minor details - e.g. they don't exclude their browser cache dirs (which of course aren't in the OS cache dir!) from TimeMachine backups, so the incremental backups get clogged by random image caches. Accessibility is limited. Right click doesn't work. And more and more.
> Right click doesn't work. And more and more.
MacOS? I fail to see that this is the way it works in RStudio, VS Code and Atom???
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
By looking at the code.
but it's closed-source, so we can't do that
`tptacek is being obtuse, but it really is pretty straightforward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompiler
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
#146Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.
> "sigh, another electron app"
Awesome Electron Apps
+ VS Code (Which was light years ahead of Atom but that gap has narrowed)
+ RStudio
+ Discord
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
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Also, unlike WhatsApp web, it's not a proxy for the phone app, thus doesn't drain its battery and still works if your phone is broken or lost.
i like the whatsapp web because i dont have to install something now just so i could send a message to somebody, and because its a proxy for the phone app i dont have to worry that i got the message on the desktop but its not synced to mobile ( im looking at you skype )
Honestly, a modern chat app should have both. There should be a web client, and a native client.
Riot and Wire both seem to have that. Riot uses a WebApp-as-Native kind of thing, while Wire actually seems to have a native app.
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
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By looking at the code.
but it's closed-source, so we can't do that
You understand how frustrating it is for open source advocates to hear that normal users will never look at source code and so there's no practical difference for them between closed source and open source since it's all opaque to them anyways?
That's how literally every security person feels about the argument that closed-source software is unknowable.
We don't need decompilers or special tools to read closed-source applications. Almost all of them --- very much including the Signal-based messengers --- are built with tools that produce straightforward easy to follow assembly code.
Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
#149I use Telegram with my geek friends. Works.
Im not sure what 'geeks' you are talking about (The terminology is always confusing. But my friends (and me) refuse Telegram because of the terrible security and privacy.