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Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by detaro »

nicolapcweek94 wrote: post #78
mderazon wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it related? AFAIK Signal has sync between desktop and mobile doesn't have to be constantly on to use the desktop client

Signal does have sync, but it works exactly the same way as Whatsapp's does, requiring your phone to be on and connected Telegram's secret chats are also client-specific and not synced, and I have no idea how it would even be possible to have e2e chats synced on multiple devices without having a "main" device that's doing the actual crypto or sharing the secret key

> Signal does have sync, but it works exactly the same way as Whatsapp's does, requiring your phone to be on and connected

It doesn't. The phone is only needed for initial setup.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by cygned »

Things I noticed so far:

- Dark Skin (still waiting for Slack doing it)

- It's faster than the MAS version

- It's not possible to collapse the chat list anymore

- The desktop app is responsive, though, collapsing the whole sidebar into a hamburger menu

- Replying to messages is buried in a context menu, in the MAS version one could simply double click a message

- They created a giant group for themes. Once 4chan joins there, things will go very bad

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by konart »

rampage101 wrote: post #48
sneak wrote: post #6

PSA: Telegram is dangerous snake oil—bad crypto. Don't use it, don't let friends use it. https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/81899003583181619... https://twitter.com/kaepora/status/819181464369577984 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/81919238137120358...

Interesting because the friend who told me about Telegram said it was more secure other messengers. Does anybody know how many users are on Telegram and who owns them? Can you invest in them?

Pavel Durov is the founder (after he left Russia).

As for numbers: http://www.businessofapps.com/telegram-statistics-and-revenu...

https://telegram.org/blog/100-million https://telegram.org/blog/15-billion

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by runn1ng »

Philipp__ wrote: post #4

Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.

I don't get it.

Why is native better than browser application? Browser application is by definition better sandboxed and can do much less damage to the system.

Normal application can do mayhem. And Telegram needs root access for installation... do I want to give it root access? When I can just open another tab?

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by konart »

cygned wrote: post #82

Things I noticed so far: - Dark Skin (still waiting for Slack doing it) - It's faster than the MAS version - It's not possible to collapse the chat list anymore - The desktop app is responsive, though, collapsing the whole sidebar into a hamburger menu - Replying to messages is buried in a context menu, in the MAS version one could simply double click a message - They created a giant group for themes. Once 4chan join…

>Dark Skin (still waiting for Slack doing it)

Any number of any skins, actually. Themes.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by pjmlp »

runn1ng wrote: post #84
Philipp__ wrote: post #4

Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.

I don't get it. Why is native better than browser application? Browser application is by definition better sandboxed and can do much less damage to the system. Normal application can do mayhem. And Telegram needs root access for installation... do I want to give it root access? When I can just open another tab?

Some users enjoy that software developers take advantage of the features of the OS they bought for a better UI/UX and performance.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by pjmlp »

ekiara wrote: post #68
Philipp__ wrote: post #4

Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.

Whats wrong with Electron Apps?

Bloated, take too much RAM and don't use the OS features that I paid for.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by hvidgaard »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #67

I love Telegram for the usability more than anything else, and don't really care for the encryption (which I find more of a curiosity). Telegram hits a few sweet spots with me: - Movement between devices is seamless (I can go from my webview in BSD to my Mac OS Native to my iOS native app and not miss a beat). - Telegram is very reliable in situations with poor connectivity. This is pure anecdote on my side, but in t…

As much as Signal from a idealistic point of view is better, Telegram works so well between my desktop and phone that it's a no brainer.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by konart »

wowtip wrote: post #77

Some of my friends are moving from Skype to Discord, but it seems to be a plethora of new IM clients popping up all the time. From what I can see Telegram doesn't have VoIP, which could be a deal breaker for some. Are there other advantages with Telegram compared to Discord that makes up for the lack of voice?

Telegram never planned implementing VoIP, as far as I remember, only voice messages.

The main reasons it's so popular (with some users, 100+ mil of them) - bots (telegram has open api, and bt platform https://telegram.org/blog/bot-revolution) and channels. In Russia - telegram channels is now a new type of media, very popular with independent journalists, bloggers etc.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by discreditable »

ekiara wrote: post #68
Philipp__ wrote: post #4

Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.

Whats wrong with Electron Apps?

I'm not a fan because if I have 50 electron apps I have 50 builds of chromium/nodejs. This is bad because:

* Lot of wasted disk space.

* Each app loads a whole chromium/nodejs: lots of wasted RAM.

* The chromiums may not all be the latest. This could be bad if those have network exposure: https://sobersecurity.blogspot.mx/2017/01/looks-like-you-hav...

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