It's so stupid that I can't read public channels without providing a valid phone number. I don't need any secrecy, just want to read damn blog posts!
Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is, but understand that not everybody cares too much about privacy, and Telegram is good--usually reliable, nice apps on all platforms, synced chats, almost limitless file storage, etc.
I think plenty of people care about privacy, which is probably why they don't want to use Facebook's acquired messenger product but rather use something independent and open source.
Yes, but not to the point of paranoia. While I understand people's sentiment about p-2-p encryption, some people really do overreact about the lack of it in Telegram atm.
If anybody really wants to hack you (you exatly) - p-2-p ecryption won't stop them, this is not some kind of absolute defence.
And if you are worried about FSB readin your messages - trust me, they don't, unless you are under suspection already. No organisation in Russian history ever worked this way, only selectively.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to https://www.eff.org/node/82654 whatsapp 6 out of 7 telegram(in secret chat) 7 out of 7 So i am not going to comment on the quality of whatsapp, because their sources are closed.
But I think you need to mention by default telegram is 4 out of 7, by default whatsapp is 6 out of 7 if you want to compare that kind of thing. Most people are not going to use the secret chat.
>Most people are not going to use the secret chat.
This is a reason i said "It's ok" in my original comment. Few people need encryption in day to day communication, but if you need it telegram is better.
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#74Now if only everyone that I know used Telegram.
Everyone I want to talk to uses Telegram, and those who didn't (a few years ago) I convinced. "You want me to install Skype/Whatsapp/something, but why should I rather than you?" It helped that most people saw the advantages that Telegram had, especially back then (before whatsapp cloned everything). Not to say that Telegram didn't clone whatsapp to a large degree, but the introduction of telegram definitely made the…
The problem is that I already have Whatsapp installed, having been an early-adopter. I can't get my family onto Telegram (high signal) and I can't get my friends onto Discord (high noise). Whatsapp is dreadful for both.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was just about to post something similar. I'm actually surprised to see a positive post of Telegram on HN. For the love of crypto, please stick to Signal protocol-based messaging applications. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol Edit: add link http://www.cryptofails.com/post/70546720222/telegrams-crypta...
The Signal desktop-app stores all messages unencrypted on the filesystem: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop/issues/1017
Sure, but telegram doesn't even have a secret chat feature on desktop client.
I can't believe there still isn't a single usable e2e mobile + desktop chat client that won't drain your cell phone battery super quickly.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to https://www.eff.org/node/82654 whatsapp 6 out of 7 telegram(in secret chat) 7 out of 7 So i am not going to comment on the quality of whatsapp, because their sources are closed.
> This is version 1.0 of our scorecard; it is out of date, and is preserved here for purely historical reasons.
It is out of date but they have revised it just after whatsapp implemented p2p encryption. Before that whatsapp rating was even lower.
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#77Some of my friends are moving from Skype to Discord, but it seems to be a plethora of new IM clients popping up all the time.
From what I can see Telegram doesn't have VoIP, which could be a deal breaker for some. Are there other advantages with Telegram compared to Discord that makes up for the lack of voice?
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course they have a real reason: message sync. Telegram works on your PC, in your browser, on your phone, on your tablet, in your raspberry pi tty... all with the same messages synced everywhere, which you wouldn't be able to get with end2end crypto. Sure, Whatsapp kinda does it with the web/desktop clients, but it's a horrible hack requiring your phone to be on and connected all the time...
How is it related? AFAIK Signal has sync between desktop and mobile doesn't have to be constantly on to use the desktop client
Signal does have sync, but it works exactly the same way as Whatsapp's does, requiring your phone to be on and connected
Telegram's secret chats are also client-specific and not synced, and I have no idea how it would even be possible to have e2e chats synced on multiple devices without having a "main" device that's doing the actual crypto or sharing the secret key
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#79Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0
#80Native all the way! Opening github page of app and seeing that pink line instead of yellow (line that represents languages used in project) made me smile! I am really surprised they did native app, plus it looks really nice, I tought "sigh, another electron app", but to my surprise I was wrong! Good job for guys at Telegram, respect.
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