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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by 1024core »

thesmallestcat wrote: post #260
1024core wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can see for yourself: shops are everywhere in Colorado (except for sparsely populated areas, obviously). https://www.coloradopotguide.com/where-to-buy-marijuana/ Before making assertions, at least do some basic fact-checking. It doesn't help the discourse to manufacture facts.

Given that you put words in my mouth elsewhere in these comments, I don't think you should be one to give advice on "discourse" and "assertions."

You wrote,

> You're leaving out that most of Colorado has prohibited dispensaries or greatly marginalized them. Legalization is mostly in Denver.

The site I linked to clearly shows that there are cannabis shops all over Colorado, not just in Denver: Boulder, Durango, Pagosa Springs, etc. etc. So I'm not putting any words in your mouth, just quoting you directly and then showing that the data contradicts your statements.

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Post by gotrecruit »

lightedman wrote: post #147
hubb wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is a false equivalency for two reasons: marijuana is not physically addictive, and THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people that heroin does.

"marijuana is not physically addictive" As a lifetime medical patient, this is not entirely true. There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension. Another one is lack of dreaming/REM sleep (as cannabis usage depletes your melatonin/serotonin levels, which effects your REM sleep.) "THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people" THC-Vivarin will hit yo…

"There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension."

i don't know what you've been smoking, but as a daily "practically 24/7" smoker myself, i've never experienced any of these when i leave the country and go without cannabis for weeks (or months) at a time. for background: i smoke first thing when i wake up, and i pretty much take a hit from the bong every 30 mins as i work from home. my work and lifestyle allows for such frequent consumption. point i'm making is, i'm a very heavy smoker so i'm a reasonably good gauge for addictive potential.

every 6 months, i take a tolerance break by visiting family in another country. guess what happens when i go cold turkey during these visits? absolutely nothing. no shaking, no foaming at the mouth, no physical withdrawal whatsoever. do i get a little bit irritated if i think about how i can't get weed? sure. but if i choose not to think about it? i don't even notice anything different at all.

regarding the lack of dreaming, yes that may be true. however, as someone who also works out every day at the gym, i felt absolutely no difference in physical recovery nor mental recovery at all.

i think the point i'm making is: whatever "withdrawal" you're experiencing is entirely in your own head. you want to believe it's there, so it's there.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by exDM69 »

op00to wrote: post #243
exDM69 wrote: post #179

I can't believe no-one in the comments here or the original article suggest growing their own. It takes 10 square feet of space, about $500 one-time investment, a day or two to build and about an hour per week of maintenance. It can be done safely, discreetly and odor-free. Sure, it would be illegal, but the chances of getting caught are pretty miniscule. Although I don't know how severe penalties are in place where…

I believe everything except odor free. Got a link to evidence?

No, I have not (only anecdotal evidence) but getting odor free is a matter of getting an active carbon filter (big enough, 3-10 kg) and a good ventilation system (required for cooling anyway). This ensures that the grow space is slightly underpressurized and all the exhaust air is odorless. Without these measures, it will stink.

It needs a bit of investment and some time to get the build right, but it can be done.

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

exwebtina wrote: post #85

I recall in 70s/80s Denmark and Netherlands made pot legal in parts of Amsterdam and Copenhagen. The areas quickly turned into dumps. I'm fine with Slab City but do we wan't this for all of US?

I guess you never went to Amsterdam?

Last december I spent a week in Amsterdam.

Smoking weed appears to be completely legalized there and it's a non issue.

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Post by thesmallestcat »

1024core wrote: post #271
thesmallestcat wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that you put words in my mouth elsewhere in these comments, I don't think you should be one to give advice on "discourse" and "assertions."

You wrote, > You're leaving out that most of Colorado has prohibited dispensaries or greatly marginalized them. Legalization is mostly in Denver. The site I linked to clearly shows that there are cannabis shops all over Colorado, not just in Denver: Boulder, Durango, Pagosa Springs, etc. etc. So I'm not putting any words in your mouth, just quoting you directly and then showing that the data contradicts your statemen…

Elsewhere in these comments you blindly accused me of being in favor of prohibition. You can't set the rules and then flaunt them. Which is why I rolled my eyes at your talk of "discourse" and "assertions." Give me a break. That you couldn't even connect those dots speaks for itself.

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Post by hasenj »

RhodesianHunter wrote: post #58
hasenj wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

What's your deep suspicion based on? Certainly not medical research.

Visiting Vancouver

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Post by hasenj »

chillwaves wrote: post #70
hasenj wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

> Almost 70 percent of Americans take at least one prescription drug, and more than half take two, according to researchers at the Mayo Clinic and Olmsted Medical Center. https://www.drugwatch.com/2015/07/29/drug-abuse-in-america/

Also, almost 70% of Americans are obese or overweight.

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Post by hasenj »

xj9 wrote: post #59
hasenj wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

so, based on your suspicion you get to decide what substances I may ingest during my personal time? addiction can ruin lives, but the war on drugs only makes it worse for drug users. addicts need help, not punishment. you may or may not agree with drug use, but it is evident that what we are doing right now is not working.

You want your own personal desires (vice?) to trump what's beneficial or destructive to society as a whole.

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Post by lightedman »

gotrecruit wrote: post #272
lightedman wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"marijuana is not physically addictive" As a lifetime medical patient, this is not entirely true. There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension. Another one is lack of dreaming/REM sleep (as cannabis usage depletes your melatonin/serotonin levels, which effects your REM sleep.) "THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people" THC-Vivarin will hit yo…

"There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension." i don't know what you've been smoking, but as a daily "practically 24/7" smoker myself, i've never experienced any of these when i leave the country and go without cannabis for weeks (or months) at a time. for background: i smoke first thing when i wake up, and i pretty much take a hit from the bong every 30 mins as i…

"i'm a very heavy smoker so i'm a reasonably good gauge for addictive potential"

Every human's body chemistry is different, so no, you are not a good gauge. To boot, I consume WAY MORE than you - I go through about 5-6 grams of concentrate a day. Get your leg replaced with titanium and plastic composites and see if your consumption doesn't jump up to really high levels due to chronic post-operative pain.

"every 6 months, i take a tolerance break by visiting family in another country."

Tolerance breaks simply aren't on the menu for me.

"i think the point i'm making is: whatever "withdrawal" you're experiencing is entirely in your own head"

Except I go to a doctor and they can physically measure everything, right down to my blood pressure, when I'm in withdrawal, and then watch everything change after I take a hit, so no, it's REAL.

Again, licensed MEDICAL patient. State card-carrying. I go to real doctors while you rely upon your own anecdotes.

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Post by xj9 »

hasenj wrote: post #278
xj9 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so, based on your suspicion you get to decide what substances I may ingest during my personal time? addiction can ruin lives, but the war on drugs only makes it worse for drug users. addicts need help, not punishment. you may or may not agree with drug use, but it is evident that what we are doing right now is not working.

You want your own personal desires (vice?) to trump what's beneficial or destructive to society as a whole.

[citation needed]

you are positing something that you have no proof of. what we do know is that the war on drugs is damaging to society. we also know that decriminalization worked for Portugal. where is your proof?

i want to be free. i don't want you or anyone else to have the power to dictate my (or anyone's) behavior.

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