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I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Pot isn't physically addictive, though. Those things are his brain causing the symptoms. Seriously. I've smoked heavily for years, with sudden breaks, and at most I get a couple days of off appetite and bad sleep. No big deal. I've met exactly one person that had withdrawals from pot: In his case, he was self-medicating with it. It wasn't that he got withdrawals from pot, but that mental illness simply reared its hea…

TBH I never understood this "it's not physical" subtlety. Last time I checked, the brain was a physical entity with physical processes running around in it. If it looks like addiction, walks like addiction and quacks like addiction, then it is addiction. And it exists in marijuana users.

The difference is in the way the body acts - and the treatment is completely different for the two. I'm not a doctor, so do a bad job of explaining the difference between the two, but the general gist is that with physical addiction, your body needs the drug to function correctly.

People who want to live die from physical detox.

It isn't that psycological addiction doesn't have physical symptoms: Indeed, many psychological problems have them - anxiety and an upset stomach, depression and aches. Not to mention panic attacks. But the treatment isn't the same at all. You don't actually have to wean someone off of something psychologically addictive - that's why folks aren't weaned off of gambling, for example. And they won't die if they don't have it (suicidal is a different issue).

Pot generally has mild withdrawal symptoms. I'm pretty sure a few get in a bad situation with it - just like folks do with anything else - but underlying psychological problems kind of mess that stuff up.

Yeah, the sweating? Could be anxiety as well, for example. And to the layperson, it would seem like withdrawal symptoms instead of the anxiety coming back. Before his diagnosis, my ex would use about anything to get the voices inside his head to shut up. Friend of mine? Had a lot of trouble not smoking, but also was a bit... off. Brain damage from a car accident + a few psychological issues to boot. In all my years, I've never seen this sort of stuff from a reasonably balanced person.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#252

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This article is propaganda. It doesn't contain any interesting data, just a rehash of the policy landscape and a single, heart string-tugging anecdote.

I think your dismissal of the article as "propaganda" is nothing but trolling. Why do you think Cannabis should be illegal? Countless anecdotes have shown that cannabis works where other medicines don't. At what point should we drop this charade of a "war on drugs" and just accept that this plant has medicinal properties like no other?

Plainly I don't think it should be illegal, I was a medicinal marijuana patient for many years, as I said elsewhere in these comments. I don't think that a mother making cannabis cookies and eating bits of them to observe the effects, determine strain and dosage for her child is appropriate. Frankly that's embarrassing behavior for a college professor, somebody who ought to know better. If you're going to give a 9 year-old an MMJ recommendation/prescription, everything besides dose delivery should be managed exclusively by a doctor.

Outright prohibition isn't the answer, but the scatter shot of substitutes aren't correct either. Don't look for me to recommend the solution, I simply took issue with the Washington Post carrying this opinion piece which, frankly, glamorizes dangerous behavior.

And it's bullshit that you put words in my mouth. I never said cannabis should be illegal. "Trolling", really? Is that a byword for disagreement now? Please go harangue your DEA strawman somewhere else.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#253

I recall in 70s/80s Denmark and Netherlands made pot legal in parts of Amsterdam and Copenhagen. The areas quickly turned into dumps. I'm fine with Slab City but do we wan't this for all of US?

Colorado has has it legal for a couple of years now. Is it a dump?

You're leaving out that most of Colorado has prohibited dispensaries or greatly marginalized them. Legalization is mostly in Denver. This is anecdote, but I've heard both from Denver-area residents and visitors that burnouts with few prospects have been drawn to Denver like moths to a flame, and that it has in no uncertain terms had a deleterious effect on the city.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I really hate the arguments these articles present in favor of it; I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too. We should not falsely elevate marijuana as some wonder drug. Surely, there's a better argument that can be presented for legalization?

Heroin is not really a fair comparison. If you take away the pot, the kid won't get seriously ill from withdrawal symptoms. If you give too much pot, the kid won't forget to breathe and die. If it works for them, let them do what they think is best for their kid. The argument is basically there's an option that works for them, and causes little health complications. That it's "looked down on" means nothing. I'm sure…

Xanax would do the trick, but detox is horrible. I'm not sure about pot, obviously nothing close.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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You mean Adderall? Millions of others do too.

No, methamphetamine is a legal treatment for ADHD and available at local grocery stores in the US: https://m.goodrx.com/methamphetamine Tens of millions of dollars of meth are sold by pharma companies in the US each year.

But you do need a prescription?

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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>marijuana is not physically addictive, One of my friends complained for months about headaches, loss of libido, tummy cramps while getting off of it after years of use.

I've been physically addicted to alcohol and opiates, and also a long term daily marijuana user (currently over a year of sobriety from all drugs). THC has no physical withdrawal symptoms.

And I've been drinking alcohol every weekend the last 15 years. Your alcoholism is a myth because otherwise I would need alcohol right now. It doesn't really work that way.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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I've been physically addicted to alcohol and opiates, and also a long term daily marijuana user (currently over a year of sobriety from all drugs). THC has no physical withdrawal symptoms.

And I've been drinking alcohol every weekend the last 15 years. Your alcoholism is a myth because otherwise I would need alcohol right now. It doesn't really work that way.

There's a difference between physical and psychological addiction.

Currently we think cannabis is not physically addictive, and we think it might be psychologically addictive for some people.

People de-toxing from alcohol addiction can literally die if they do it wrong. That's never going to happen with cannabis.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Colorado has has it legal for a couple of years now. Is it a dump?

You're leaving out that most of Colorado has prohibited dispensaries or greatly marginalized them. Legalization is mostly in Denver. This is anecdote, but I've heard both from Denver-area residents and visitors that burnouts with few prospects have been drawn to Denver like moths to a flame, and that it has in no uncertain terms had a deleterious effect on the city.

You can see for yourself: shops are everywhere in Colorado (except for sparsely populated areas, obviously). https://www.coloradopotguide.com/where-to-buy-marijuana/

Before making assertions, at least do some basic fact-checking. It doesn't help the discourse to manufacture facts.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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You're leaving out that most of Colorado has prohibited dispensaries or greatly marginalized them. Legalization is mostly in Denver. This is anecdote, but I've heard both from Denver-area residents and visitors that burnouts with few prospects have been drawn to Denver like moths to a flame, and that it has in no uncertain terms had a deleterious effect on the city.

You can see for yourself: shops are everywhere in Colorado (except for sparsely populated areas, obviously). https://www.coloradopotguide.com/where-to-buy-marijuana/ Before making assertions, at least do some basic fact-checking. It doesn't help the discourse to manufacture facts.

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're leaving out that most of Colorado has prohibited dispensaries or greatly marginalized them. Legalization is mostly in Denver. This is anecdote, but I've heard both from Denver-area residents and visitors that burnouts with few prospects have been drawn to Denver like moths to a flame, and that it has in no uncertain terms had a deleterious effect on the city.

You can see for yourself: shops are everywhere in Colorado (except for sparsely populated areas, obviously). https://www.coloradopotguide.com/where-to-buy-marijuana/ Before making assertions, at least do some basic fact-checking. It doesn't help the discourse to manufacture facts.

Given that you put words in my mouth elsewhere in these comments, I don't think you should be one to give advice on "discourse" and "assertions."
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