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Post by jMyles »

mcguire wrote: post #114
ritchiea wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The case isn't "my kid mellows out on weed" it's "my kid has behavioral problems that prevent him from functioning at home & in school that are alleviated by weed".

The point, though, as I take it, is, would you be satisfied if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form?

> if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form

What is the advantage of this over raw plant material?

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Post by tunap »

tptacek wrote: post #106
tunap wrote: post #24

I spent the majority of 2012 in hospitals with two family members fighting cancers. I had a lot of conversations with doctors/nurses and often enough MMJ was discussed. "Off the record", of course. The general consensus was CBDs have many apparent benefits, it was even posited they may inhibit malignant cell formations(further study required). The consensus also was that the THC race to get the most 'chronic' high fr…

On the other hand, the strain mentioned in this article is famously high in THC.

I noted that irony. The parents should have been informed of low THC strains, they aren't uncommon. One of the NBC news channels broadcast the documentary on CW nationally and repeatedly. Pertinent info can be hard to find amongst the noise.

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Post by kowdermeister »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #54
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

I call hyperbole. Millions of deaths? Do you mean by overdose? Are those the fault of resisting the spread of drugs?

I suggest this Kurzgesagt video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJUXLqNHCaI

Deaths might not be in the million range, but the number of ruined life thanks to the war is well beyond millions.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/drug-war-statistics

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Post by daveguy »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #134
daveguy wrote: post #119

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This. It is incredibly irresponsible to run the equivalent of clinical trials on your child. She pointed out a single medical study of cannabis for children that was a bust. Clinical trials are highly controlled and dosage is tiered for safety. Cowboy drug trials are dangerous and stupid. I don't care if it's cannabis, crack or aspirin. And she tested the cookies on herself to see if they were ok? Did she realize she…

All very easy to say, safely in your house away from your loved child in pain with 600+ violent outbursts a day. Every parent has only one subject; every child raising is a trial. You only have one chance and have to choose one approach. This drug is used worldwide by maybe a billion people. Scaremongering is unhelpful.

Cowboy drug trials on children are scary. No need for scaremongering.

Aspirin is used by billions of people and it's dangerous to give to children.

She obviously has no clue how to manage safe dosing for a trial and that is ignorant and dangerous.

Just because it's natural and everyone's doing it doesn't mean it's safe: hemlock is natural, "everyone" used to smoke cigarettes.

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Post by jolux »

chrischen wrote: post #103
gragas wrote: post #82

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One could properly dose this 9-year-old and make him "chill out." I have no doubt that it is possible. That said, I really agree with your argument. You make a great case for legalization that isn't merely "oh hur dur look how my child mellows out on weed." Thank you.

Yes and in fact we do basically give stimulants to roudy kids in the form of Adderall and Vyvance.

Adderall and Vyvanse are basically the same thing, it's just that Vyvanse is the prodrug form that can't be insufflated for quicker delivery. It'll be the same as it is orally.

Methylphenidate is a different beast altogether and not neurotoxic like the amphetamines are even though in therapeutic doses amphetamines are also extremely safe. The difference is that amphetamines are both dopamine reuptake inhibitors and dopaminergic releasing agents while methylphenidate only inhibits dopamine reuptake alongside its effect as a CNS stimulant.

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Post by MichaelGG »

chillwaves wrote: post #72
leakybit wrote: post #31

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Which is why the only drug I do is meth, since it's not physically addictive and actually makes me function better.

You mean Adderall? Millions of others do too.

No, methamphetamine is a legal treatment for ADHD and available at local grocery stores in the US: https://m.goodrx.com/methamphetamine

Tens of millions of dollars of meth are sold by pharma companies in the US each year.

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Post by lightedman »

hubb wrote: post #21
gragas wrote: post #13

I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I really hate the arguments these articles present in favor of it; I'm sure your raging 9-year-old kid would chill out on a strong dose of heroin, too. We should not falsely elevate marijuana as some wonder drug. Surely, there's a better argument that can be presented for legalization?

this is a false equivalency for two reasons: marijuana is not physically addictive, and THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people that heroin does.

"marijuana is not physically addictive"

As a lifetime medical patient, this is not entirely true. There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension. Another one is lack of dreaming/REM sleep (as cannabis usage depletes your melatonin/serotonin levels, which effects your REM sleep.)

"THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people"

THC-Vivarin will hit you so hard I'd be surprised if you could remain standing despite the fact it only lasts for about 15 minutes.

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Post by lightedman »

randomdata wrote: post #115
dominotw wrote: post #75

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>marijuana is not physically addictive, One of my friends complained for months about headaches, loss of libido, tummy cramps while getting off of it after years of use.

On the other hand, marijuana has been used to treat those symptoms. It may be your friend had some other problem that was being masked by the prolonged marijuana use. Or one of the other many reasons why there can be correlation without causation.

The headaches are caused by the brain not producing its own canabinoids due to the influx of outside cannabinoid sources.

Source - lifelong medical cannabis patient.

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Post by phreack »

mistermann wrote: post #55
mazlix wrote: post #28

I'd advice caution on giving any developing brain cannabis. Although it seems cannabis is fairly harmless in developed brains– there's some evidence it can interfere with development.

In this case it seems more prudent to worry about whether this kid is going to cut his jugular when putting his head through a window.

Yes, obviously, this case appears to be entirely justified. OP likely meant it as a warning to any reader who'd think it harmless to do to a kid with regular but stressful tantrums.

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Post by corey_moncure »

edblarney wrote: post #129
baddox wrote: post #120

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> Of course there is no reason to put pot smokers in jail - but this antagonism about the 'war on drugs' is very naive, unsympathetic, and dangerous. The part of this sentence after the hyphen is where you're fundamentally wrong. You listed a lot of sad facts and stories about drug abuse, but those do not constitute a defense of the war on drugs. It's naive to excuse the war on drugs simply because some drugs cause h…

"some drugs cause horrible effects for some people." No. Meth, cocaine and opioids represent the vast majority of illegal use outside of weed (which I think is a different category, and it is treated differently in most places) - and they represent a huge risk to society at large. Prescription opioid use is becoming a massive problem (and now the #1 source of addiction etc.) in the US - it's systematic - not just a p…

>Prescription opioid use is becoming a massive problem

One of the central points of the anti-drug-war argument is that the prescription opioid problem is a side effect of the drug war. You're making their argument for them here. Many people believe we would be better off medicating ourselves with naturally available alternatives to lab produced synthetic pharmaceuticals. This is why marijuana is touted so loudly as an alternative pain killer, and also why it is listed in the catch-22 schedule I category. Breaking the state's grip on pain relief would be disastrous for the gargantuan moneyed interests that benefit from it.

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