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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by flukus »

Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

> With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin.

Presumably you'd be compensated for it, although that presumption rarely works out in the real world.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by [deleted] »

rodgerd wrote: post #34
Johnny555 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Successful athletes get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Successful workers get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Some athletes are motivated to be better and better at their sport. Some workers are motivated to be better and better at their job. Isn't that the same motivations?

Some athletes do. Others just end up with CTE or a liver the consistency of polystyrene ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_M%C3%BCnzer ).

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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by WalterSear »

kabes wrote: post #39
Johnny555 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point of the micro-dose is that it's not enough to make you feel high, just enough to have positive effects. So it's likely not the same effect you've experienced, unless you've experimented with micro-doses.

Don't have experience with micro-doses. But any dose wears off. So at a certain point, you basically have a micro dose. But there's not a single point in the whole LSD experience that would make me a better engineer. Of course, it might for other people, although I seriously doubt it. Maybe in other fields (marketing, sales, etc).

Coming down is not the same as a microdose.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by [deleted] »

kabes wrote: post #39
Johnny555 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point of the micro-dose is that it's not enough to make you feel high, just enough to have positive effects. So it's likely not the same effect you've experienced, unless you've experimented with micro-doses.

Don't have experience with micro-doses. But any dose wears off. So at a certain point, you basically have a micro dose. But there's not a single point in the whole LSD experience that would make me a better engineer. Of course, it might for other people, although I seriously doubt it. Maybe in other fields (marketing, sales, etc).

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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by hawkice »

pharrlax wrote: post #46
fowlerpower wrote: post #41

What's interesting about people who are willing to do anything to get ahead is they usually end up burning out like a flame that burned up too fast. I used to work out pretty heavily for years. Putting on real muscle in the gym is hard work and strength and muscle takes years to build up. There was always people that wanted the easy way or "an edge" there. In the professional world, where you would think people are s…

LSD is one of the safest drugs around, in terms of health effects, at recreational doses (let alone at microdoses). Unless there are some mystery side effects I'm not aware of, I'm not sure how your analogy makes any sense.

A single dose of LSD may be able to permanently change your personality [1], which is, as the abstract points out, essentially unheard of. This is perhaps one of the most psychoactive chemicals known to humankind, which certainly has long-lasting effects.

That would be the mystery side effect you aren't aware of.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3537171/

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by smallnamespace »

pharrlax wrote: post #47
Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

>you're risking your health Really? How so? What health risks come with microdosing LSD? Are they comparable to the health risks of Adderall? Or nicotine? Or even caffeine? >Of the 20 drugs ranked harm to individual and societal harm by David Nutt, LSD was third to last, approximately 10 times less harmful than alcohol. The most significant adverse effect was impairment of mental functioning while intoxicated. https:…

The risks seem to be of a different and rather less tolerable form though:

"Review studies suggest that LSD likely plays a role in precipitating the onset of acute psychosis in previously healthy individuals with an increased likelihood in individuals who have a family history of schizophrenia."

Like, being mentally fine, then taking LSD and having that precipitate acute psychosis seems like a rather terrible downside tail risk, even if it's statistically very rare.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by [deleted] »

pharrlax wrote: post #47
Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

>you're risking your health Really? How so? What health risks come with microdosing LSD? Are they comparable to the health risks of Adderall? Or nicotine? Or even caffeine? >Of the 20 drugs ranked harm to individual and societal harm by David Nutt, LSD was third to last, approximately 10 times less harmful than alcohol. The most significant adverse effect was impairment of mental functioning while intoxicated. https:…

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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by anexprogrammer »

pharrlax wrote: post #47
Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

>you're risking your health Really? How so? What health risks come with microdosing LSD? Are they comparable to the health risks of Adderall? Or nicotine? Or even caffeine? >Of the 20 drugs ranked harm to individual and societal harm by David Nutt, LSD was third to last, approximately 10 times less harmful than alcohol. The most significant adverse effect was impairment of mental functioning while intoxicated. https:…

I find it odd in pointing out health risks and citing David Nutt's study[0] you don't mention the #1 damaging drug - alcohol.

[0] http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_caus...

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by pizza »

mistermann wrote: post #43
pizza wrote: post #27

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Speaking as a professional non-doctor, yeah maybe? It really is a thing that is only responsible to do under a doctor's supervision. But speaking as someone who has done a lot of both, both with and without supervision, they've made a tremendous difference. Having adderall is like turning on "responsible, task-completing adult" mode, and music becomes wonderful to listen to again, and my memory becomes sharper, and g…

> Having adderall is like turning on "responsible, task-completing adult" mode Oh god please yes! But, is it more of an energy boost? Does it change motivation (if that's the word to describe what I'm suffering)? I'm not able to work through a doctor as I will be applying for life insurance soon, after being turned down once I don't want to take chances. Doing it without supervision, where would one get supplies?

A large energy boost and increase in short term memory capacity, for me. I find it greatly that the amount of perceived/predicted effort of any given task that my brain subconsciously computes is greatly reduced - I don't have to "convince" myself to do a chore, I will just simply do it, etc.

And dark net markets are a very accessible source. If you choose to do so, try to make sure that they're not going to scam you- find out the supplier's reputation before purchase.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by mistermann »

pizza wrote: post #59
mistermann wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having adderall is like turning on "responsible, task-completing adult" mode Oh god please yes! But, is it more of an energy boost? Does it change motivation (if that's the word to describe what I'm suffering)? I'm not able to work through a doctor as I will be applying for life insurance soon, after being turned down once I don't want to take chances. Doing it without supervision, where would one get supplies?

A large energy boost and increase in short term memory capacity, for me. I find it greatly that the amount of perceived/predicted effort of any given task that my brain subconsciously computes is greatly reduced - I don't have to "convince" myself to do a chore, I will just simply do it, etc. And dark net markets are a very accessible source. If you choose to do so, try to make sure that they're not going to scam you…

Any idea about a supplier from India? From what I've heard it's pretty hassle free and dependable.

Thanks for the information by the way.

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