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Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by Johnny555 »

Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

Successful athletes get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Successful workers get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Some athletes are motivated to be better and better at their sport. Some workers are motivated to be better and better at their job.

Isn't that the same motivations?

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by rodgerd »

Johnny555 wrote: post #31
Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

Successful athletes get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Successful workers get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Some athletes are motivated to be better and better at their sport. Some workers are motivated to be better and better at their job. Isn't that the same motivations?

Some athletes do. Others just end up with CTE or a liver the consistency of polystyrene (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_M%C3%BCnzer).

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by Alex3917 »

adamcharnock wrote: post #30

The day psychedelics died. The idea of using this class of drugs to work longer and harder seems rather counter to the beliefs that originally brought them into the modern consciousness. If this is a trend then I feel it is tragic indeed, especially if spawned in California.

> The idea of using this class of drugs to work longer and harder seems rather counter to the beliefs that originally brought them into the modern consciousness.

For what it's worth, microdosing was popularized in the last few years by James Fadiman... Whose research in the 60s, which originally helped to popularize psychedelics, was on using them to improve work performance.

Obviously this isn't what R. Gordon Wasson was using mushrooms for in the 50s or whatever, but the idea of using psychedelics for work purposes has been around for a while. I think the main thing that's changed is that, with the death of modernism, we've become more cynical about the ability of ideas and technology to improve the human condition.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by [deleted] »

sean_patel wrote: post #4

I've have been with mild adult ADHD and it interferes with my programming and getting "in flow" moments. I noticed if I do a certain strain of Sativa, it helps me, but I don't want to smoke as it hurts my lungs. So, 2 serious questions. 1) How do I get my hands on this micro-dose thingy in San Francisco 2) Is it illegal, i.e. could I get arrested if found in possession of it? Thanks!

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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by jimbokun »

Johnny555 wrote: post #31
Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

Successful athletes get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Successful workers get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Some athletes are motivated to be better and better at their sport. Some workers are motivated to be better and better at their job. Isn't that the same motivations?

The connection between hard work and higher pay is dwindling. More and more profits and revenues just go to the owners of the equity. So yes, if you do not have a lot of equity at stake, past a certain point working harder definitely can make you a sucker in many cases.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by Johnny555 »

jimbokun wrote: post #37
Johnny555 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Successful athletes get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Successful workers get both personal recognition plus symbolic and monetary rewards for their talents. Some athletes are motivated to be better and better at their sport. Some workers are motivated to be better and better at their job. Isn't that the same motivations?

The connection between hard work and higher pay is dwindling. More and more profits and revenues just go to the owners of the equity. So yes, if you do not have a lot of equity at stake, past a certain point working harder definitely can make you a sucker in many cases.

Sure, but if all of your coworkers are surpassing you because they are using performance enhancing drugs and you're not, then you're under pressure to do the same just to keep up, otherwise you run the risk of losing your job.

Which is the situation that many athletes find themselves in.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by kabes »

Johnny555 wrote: post #28
kabes wrote: post #19

Isn't this highly related to the work you do? I'm a software engineer who's quite experienced with most drugs including LSD. I can't imagine LSD improving my work at all. And if I would need to take drugs to be good at my job, I'd just quit my job. Even the long-term effects of the most popular drugs are largely unkown (e.g. there's a lot of debate about the neurotoxicity of MDMA). Let alone all the lesser known drug…

I think the point of the micro-dose is that it's not enough to make you feel high, just enough to have positive effects. So it's likely not the same effect you've experienced, unless you've experimented with micro-doses.

Don't have experience with micro-doses. But any dose wears off. So at a certain point, you basically have a micro dose. But there's not a single point in the whole LSD experience that would make me a better engineer. Of course, it might for other people, although I seriously doubt it. Maybe in other fields (marketing, sales, etc).
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