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Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by fowlerpower »

What's interesting about people who are willing to do anything to get ahead is they usually end up burning out like a flame that burned up too fast.

I used to work out pretty heavily for years. Putting on real muscle in the gym is hard work and strength and muscle takes years to build up. There was always people that wanted the easy way or "an edge" there. In the professional world, where you would think people are smarter, you see the same mentality. Most of the people that used steroids on the gym ended up destroying the chemical make up of their bodies. They never produced the same amount of testosterone on their own anymore, there were all kinds of other side effects. Some had such terrible chemical imbalances they were never the same person anymore. I don't think this sort of thing is any different, these people are lying to themselves if they believe these things won't have any lasting effects.

The kind of career you build all natural will last, just like the real muscle would in the gym. The muscle out on with roids would disappear soon after the roids are gone plus the side effects. The same will happen here believe me. Anyway, just my two cents.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by laxd »

kabes wrote: post #39
Johnny555 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point of the micro-dose is that it's not enough to make you feel high, just enough to have positive effects. So it's likely not the same effect you've experienced, unless you've experimented with micro-doses.

Don't have experience with micro-doses. But any dose wears off. So at a certain point, you basically have a micro dose. But there's not a single point in the whole LSD experience that would make me a better engineer. Of course, it might for other people, although I seriously doubt it. Maybe in other fields (marketing, sales, etc).

Have'nt tried microdosing. But when a full dose wears off, it would be natural to be a bit mentally exhausted from the trip so I can't imagine it's comparable to a microdose.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by mistermann »

pizza wrote: post #27
mistermann wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am recently having problems with procrastination, possibly depression (I imagine possibly in part due to lack of progress), etc - are these sorts of things symptoms of ADHD, or possibly something Adderall/Ritalin could help?

Speaking as a professional non-doctor, yeah maybe? It really is a thing that is only responsible to do under a doctor's supervision. But speaking as someone who has done a lot of both, both with and without supervision, they've made a tremendous difference. Having adderall is like turning on "responsible, task-completing adult" mode, and music becomes wonderful to listen to again, and my memory becomes sharper, and g…

> Having adderall is like turning on "responsible, task-completing adult" mode

Oh god please yes! But, is it more of an energy boost? Does it change motivation (if that's the word to describe what I'm suffering)?

I'm not able to work through a doctor as I will be applying for life insurance soon, after being turned down once I don't want to take chances.

Doing it without supervision, where would one get supplies?

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

I'm reminded again of this passage, from Terry Pratchet's "The Carpet People":

Pismire was the shaman, a kind of odd-job priest.

Most tribes had one, although Pismire was different. For one thing, he washed all the bits that showed at least once every month. This was unusual. Other shamen tended to encourage dirt, taking the view that the grubbier, the more magical.

And he didn't wear lots of feathers and bones, and he didn't talk like the other shamen in neighbouring tribes.

Other shamen ate the yellow-spotted mushrooms that were found deep in the hair thickets and said things like: "Hiiiiya/iya/iheya! Heyaheyayahyah! Hngh! Hngh!" which certainly sounded magical.

Pismire said things like, "Correct observation followed by meticulous deduction and the precise visualization of goals is vital to the success of any enterprise. Have you noticed the way the wild tromps always move around two days ahead of the sorath herds? Incidentally, don't eat the yellow-spotted mushrooms."

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by falcolas »

costcopizza wrote: post #29
cwyers wrote: post #9

I used to do a microdose of stimulants every hour or so while working. It was called "smoking cigarettes."

I chuckled, but it is true. They do provide a nice burst of clarity and ideas for a brief moment...

But is it the nicotine, or the fresh air and interruption?

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by pharrlax »

fowlerpower wrote: post #41

What's interesting about people who are willing to do anything to get ahead is they usually end up burning out like a flame that burned up too fast. I used to work out pretty heavily for years. Putting on real muscle in the gym is hard work and strength and muscle takes years to build up. There was always people that wanted the easy way or "an edge" there. In the professional world, where you would think people are s…

LSD is one of the safest drugs around, in terms of health effects, at recreational doses (let alone at microdoses).

Unless there are some mystery side effects I'm not aware of, I'm not sure how your analogy makes any sense.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by pharrlax »

Clubber wrote: post #2

I think this is even more absurd than steroids. At least with steroids you're risking your health for your own benefit. With this stuff, you're risking your health for someone else's profit margin. Hey, as if willingly working 60 hours a week for no more pay wasn't bad enough. When are we gonna stop being suckers?

>you're risking your health

Really? How so? What health risks come with microdosing LSD?

Are they comparable to the health risks of Adderall? Or nicotine? Or even caffeine?

>Of the 20 drugs ranked harm to individual and societal harm by David Nutt, LSD was third to last, approximately 10 times less harmful than alcohol. The most significant adverse effect was impairment of mental functioning while intoxicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide#Adv...

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by omio »

fowlerpower wrote: post #41

What's interesting about people who are willing to do anything to get ahead is they usually end up burning out like a flame that burned up too fast. I used to work out pretty heavily for years. Putting on real muscle in the gym is hard work and strength and muscle takes years to build up. There was always people that wanted the easy way or "an edge" there. In the professional world, where you would think people are s…

Even without steroids your body loses a lot of mass after you stop lifting heavy weights.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by acetoxy »

laxd wrote: post #42
kabes wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't have experience with micro-doses. But any dose wears off. So at a certain point, you basically have a micro dose. But there's not a single point in the whole LSD experience that would make me a better engineer. Of course, it might for other people, although I seriously doubt it. Maybe in other fields (marketing, sales, etc).

Have'nt tried microdosing. But when a full dose wears off, it would be natural to be a bit mentally exhausted from the trip so I can't imagine it's comparable to a microdose.

Exactly.

10µg and 100µg are very different. You don't trip from 10µg as you would from 100µg.

You may feel a little bit more energetic, a little bit happier, conversations flow better etc... But it's all very subtle.

From the article: > In fact, a common problem for new experimenters, according to Fadiman, is that people are used to feeling the effects of drugs, and a micro-dose of LSD can sometimes be less perceptible than a cup of coffee.

Re: Micro-Dosing: The Drug Habit Your Boss Is Gonna Love

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Post by acetoxy »

Johnny555 wrote: post #38
jimbokun wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The connection between hard work and higher pay is dwindling. More and more profits and revenues just go to the owners of the equity. So yes, if you do not have a lot of equity at stake, past a certain point working harder definitely can make you a sucker in many cases.

Sure, but if all of your coworkers are surpassing you because they are using performance enhancing drugs and you're not, then you're under pressure to do the same just to keep up, otherwise you run the risk of losing your job. Which is the situation that many athletes find themselves in.

If you're feeling pressured into doing drugs at work, maybe then you should find another job anyways.
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