Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by vikingcaffiene » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 3:15 AM UTC

I've had the 7 for a few months and I am considering returning it. The phone is overall solid build quality but uninspired/boring. There are flaws that make this model a definite downgrade from previous models. I buy Apple products because of the thoughtful little details they pay attention to that you didn't know you wanted till you noticed it. Its a super high bar to be sure but its one that is part of their brand and the justification for the insane markup they charge. I would compare it to buying a bespoke suit or a quality time piece. You pay this kind of money because you are serious about having the best and want every little thing just right. The 7 is just kinda "meh" and thats not how I want to feel when I spend this kind of scratch.

The headphone jack is of course super annoying and I run into so many case where I wish I had it (for instance when trying to play a song back through some monitors for my friends). Just such a stupid and unnecessary move.

The deal breaker for me (and can anyone confirm if they are experiencing this??) is that the lightning connector just refuses to stay plugged in if I jostle the phone even slightly. Tried different cables, case on and off. Always the same. Its possible that I have a defective unit I guess.

At this point the only things keeping me are a) I need an iOS device for some work projects. b) I am concerned that I wont be able to move all my data over to another platform without massive pain.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by jsz0 » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 3:36 AM UTC

Washuu wrote: post #117

ihuman wrote: post #99

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>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

> The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Yeah, no. When will I need this dongle? Exactly when I left it somewhere else. Then Apple will need a "Find my Dongle" application next to all the other "Find my*" applications. I am not going to buy expensive spare dongles just so I don't rage when I realize I left the dongle at work so now I can't listen to mus…

> The removal of the 3.5mm jack is a failure by Apple.

It's been a total non-issue for me. Since the iPhone 7 comes with both the adapter and Lighting headphones work/home usage isn't a problem. I just use the adapter + existing headphones at home and the Lighting headphones at work.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by danieltillett » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 4:14 AM UTC

brianwawok wrote: post #85

rosstex wrote: post #38

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I'm really glad I just learned this definition of "decimate", can't wait to use this

You have a team of 10 devs, and blow a project? Draw straws, the loser gets fired.

Not a bad idea if there is good team dynamics. Probably more effective than firing everyone and starting again.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by zump » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 4:37 AM UTC

soylentcola wrote: post #101

kctess5 wrote: post #78

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True! I just read about the "decimation of Aethelwulf" - the ninth century king of Wessex (current Great Britain) gave away a tenth of his empire in order to secure the kingdom during his pilgrimage to Rome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æthelwulf#Decimation_Charter...

Cool! I like reading about that stuff, especially so since I've also been watching the semi-historical fiction of "Vikings". The show is enjoyable even when not historically accurate but it then gets me to read about the similar things that actually happened.

Ugh, the olden days seem so cruel. It motivates me to make the world a better place.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by pauliusj » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 4:45 AM UTC

vikingcaffiene wrote: post #191

I've had the 7 for a few months and I am considering returning it. The phone is overall solid build quality but uninspired/boring. There are flaws that make this model a definite downgrade from previous models. I buy Apple products because of the thoughtful little details they pay attention to that you didn't know you wanted till you noticed it. Its a super high bar to be sure but its one that is part of their brand…

See if you dont have anything inside the port. I need to clean mine with a needle from time to time because small stuff from my pockets like cloth dust gets inside and then gets compressed every time you plug the cable. Ive seen this being the primary cause of the sensitive connection problem for a lot of people(including micro usb ports)

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by DashRattlesnake » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:05 AM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #127

brightball wrote: post #110

Apple's losing its mojo in a slow steady drip and there's going to be more of this if they don't get it together soon. Apple used to be synonymous with premium equipment an a "It Just Works" experience. It made it really, really easy to just get the Apple version of anything knowing it was going to be good. My parents need equipment, I get them an iMac, an Airport Extreme, iPhone, iPad, etc...knowing it's all just go…

I tried quite a few routers and if you are on a budget (or simply aren't fussed on giving $200+ for a router which is entirely fair) I found that the Asus RT-N18U is a fantastic device for the money. I attached my printer and external HDD to it and had almost no problems. The UI is better than most other vendors (Eero and Ubiquiti are still kings though) and on top of that they have a very decent mobile app as well.…

I wouldn't recommend Asus routers. I used to have one, but got rid of it due to the serious security problems they were having:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/dear-asus-router-use...

http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/asus-router-security-hack.h... (some random article I found, giving an overview of some of the other problems)

Now I use a Mikrotik. The only downside is the UI is quite powerful and allows you to hang yourself if you're not careful. It's definitely not for non-engineers. However, it does get regular updates since it's targeted at a more professional market.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by DashRattlesnake » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:08 AM UTC

brightball wrote: post #171

pdimitar wrote: post #127

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I tried quite a few routers and if you are on a budget (or simply aren't fussed on giving $200+ for a router which is entirely fair) I found that the Asus RT-N18U is a fantastic device for the money. I attached my printer and external HDD to it and had almost no problems. The UI is better than most other vendors (Eero and Ubiquiti are still kings though) and on top of that they have a very decent mobile app as well.…

That's what I had in mind with the ASUS wave. I've heard nothing but good things.

You might want to reconsider. Asus routers have had serious security issues. See my other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13289586

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by tw04 » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:44 AM UTC

b2600 wrote: post #180

Longhanks wrote: post #106

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I can definitely relate to that. Using iOS at this point frustrates me so much that sometimes I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6 to remember what a wonderful UI and UX that was. The bigger problem is the lack of alternatives. Android is such a mess of inconsistencies and bad UX, added to that are the problems with system updates, lack of a proper flagship device (the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my…

"the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my opinion" That's a very unusual opinion. Most reviews I've seen contradict this. Hell, you could compare the 6p with the 6s and the iPhone would win (in my opinion) but it wouldn't blow it out of the water. I haven't had hands on with the Pixel yet so I'll reserve my personal judgement but I have owned the 6s, the 6p, and the iPhone 7 (daily driver). Furthermore, it…

I have a pixel and an iPhone 6. Several close acquaintances with 7s. I have no idea what OP is talking about, but everyone I've talked to that sees the pixel and has an iPhone tends to have the reaction of "Wow, I'd actually consider dumping my iPhone after seeing that". Heck, one buddy actually returned the 7 and bought a Pixel because he was so frustrated with the 7 (didn't like the new home button, lack of headphone jack, buggy iOS updates, etc).

I'm not sure what about it he considers a "joke", but it's one of the best phones I've ever owned. It's what Android was always meant to be.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by kalleboo » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:50 AM UTC

monkmartinez wrote: post #130

ihuman wrote: post #125

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I just keep mine connected to my headphones, since I use them more with my iPhone than a computer. Also someone made a cool keychain to attach it to if that works better for you. [1] > expensive spare dongles They're only $10 USD. [1] https://uncourage.com/

Only $10??? That is a lot of money for something that shouldn't be needed in the first place. I haven't spent $10 dollars on my phone since I bought a case for it in 2013. Then again, I have expandable memory and a headphone jack (Galaxy Note 3).

Why bother with expandable memory if you haven't bought a memory card for it in over 3 years?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by eh78ssxv2f » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:52 AM UTC

X86BSD wrote: post #169

nicky0 wrote: post #157

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Actually no, privacy is a point of difference between Apple and the other companies. Apple has very different philosophy regarding user data. Generally they try to keep it on your phone and they don't suck everything up into their datacenter, as they aren't in the business of selling ads. That's why their "intelligent assistant" stuff isn't as good as Google's.

Google sells your data for $$. It is their main income stream. Apple doesn't. They don't want your data and don't enter markets in fact because they don't want to monetize you or your data.

Not to nit-pick but this is completely wrong. Google does not sell the data. They use the data to show relevant ads. The advertisers have no access to the user data.