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Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Finally the historical use of the word Decimate. To remove 1 in 10. > The word decimation is derived from Latin meaning "removal of a tenth" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/decimate In Ancient Rome if a Roman Army was to be disciplined for desertion or mutiny they would be decimated and 1 in 10 soldiers would be killed by the commanding officer. They would use lottery system to choice the ones to be whipped to the…

True! I just read about the "decimation of Aethelwulf" - the ninth century king of Wessex (current Great Britain) gave away a tenth of his empire in order to secure the kingdom during his pilgrimage to Rome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æthelwulf#Decimation_Charter...

Cool! I like reading about that stuff, especially so since I've also been watching the semi-historical fiction of "Vikings". The show is enjoyable even when not historically accurate but it then gets me to read about the similar things that actually happened.

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Are we at the end of an era computing wise or is it just Apple? I wonder if computing technologies great transformation of our society is coming to an end. I also thought this in about 1993 and then again in the mid 2000s, so I'm probably wrong again. Maybe AI will be the new killer app that drives the next wave of upgrades.

I don't think so, really. Self-driving cars are a big one. Wearables (lenses, implants, clothing, etc.) are coming. Business software for SMBs probably has a bit to go yet in using big data/AI.

I do think biotech is the hot stuff of the future, but it's going to take a decade or two before it really takes off.

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I hope the market punishes them for removing the ports we regularly use from the MacBook Pro so when I'm ready to buy a new one in a few years they have brought them back. In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector is maddening. By far my favorite feature of Macbooks and they removed it because??

No, in a few years everything will be USB-C. The ports are gone for good.

Yeah the devices are coming soon. I find it ironic that the new macbook pro works seemlessly with new google pixel devices, you can just plug in a usb-c cable between them, no dongles needed. If Apple wanted to be really bold they would have swapped lightening for usb-c so the new iphone and macbook pro could be connected with one simple cable.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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The numbers coming out of Apple next quarter will be interesting. iPhone 7 has been underwhelming and reception to the latest MacBooks Pros has been mostly negative. And if sales are on a downhill trajectory, I wonder what the response inside of Apple will be.

> The numbers coming out of Apple next quarter will be interesting

Isn't it expected that many people will wait for the iPhone 8 (also iPhone's 10 year anniversary) because Apple probably waits with releasing new features for this version?

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For someone who waited nearly a month to get my iphone7 (as an upgrade from a galaxy s3) due to inventory being unavailable I'm going WTF - sluggish sales? then why did i have to wait so long? But then at the same time I compare my iphone 7 to friends iphone 6S models and realize...oh the only difference is the headphone jack if you dont do x,y,z...no wonder they aren't selling too many

Better screen, better camera, better external speakers, added waterproofing, and faster. I'm not sure what people were expecting when they say nothing has changed.

But I don't watch/listen-to-externally music videos in the rain while switching back and forth between snap-chatting

The comparison of the 7 and 6S between email, browser, twitter and a couple other common apps however is negligible.

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

I can definitely relate to that. Using iOS at this point frustrates me so much that sometimes I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6 to remember what a wonderful UI and UX that was.

The bigger problem is the lack of alternatives. Android is such a mess of inconsistencies and bad UX, added to that are the problems with system updates, lack of a proper flagship device (the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my opinion), and the fact that I don't like the Google ecosystem very much because of the way Google handles my data.

I really hope Apple gets back on track with iOS or Google finally nails it with Android so there would at least be competition. But at the moment, using 'mobile', for me, is more frustrating than it was in 2012.

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Are we at the end of an era computing wise or is it just Apple? I wonder if computing technologies great transformation of our society is coming to an end. I also thought this in about 1993 and then again in the mid 2000s, so I'm probably wrong again. Maybe AI will be the new killer app that drives the next wave of upgrades.

No, there is simply more competition today, and market balances things out. Also, Apple grew too comfortable and stopped pushing forward. It was only a matter of time for this to happen.

Do you have any data that suggest that the reason Apple's sales are decreasing is because they are loosing markets to competitors, rather than simply because the whole market is not growing as much as it was previously?

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I switched back from Android to iOS because the only decent Android phone (Pixel) is in the same price range as an iPhone. I got a jet black iPhone 7 and I love it, it just feels great in my hand. The only thing I am a little disappointed about is the notifications system, which is still sub par compared to Android (like, 2 touches instead of 1 to clear a notification, and I cannot properly configure Gmail to show on…

Probably off-topic but I still can't make myself to love iOS that much. I like the idea of the iPhone a lot -- a seemingly commodity phone with actual superior specs (especially the internal memory which is practically a SSD) and fluid and standard experience which helps people not get confused. But things like not having more volume controls (for example notifications and phone ringer are on the same volume in 2016, you for real?!), or lack of a dark theme, usage of LCD displays, and a few others -- are still putting me off.

On the other hand, I am drifting away from requiring my smartphone to be an ultimate mobile device; I believe I'll just get an iPad Pro 9.7" next year and will settle for a more casual smartphone -- like the iPhone, or a Moto, or Galaxy S8, we'll see. I work from home and 99% of my internet consumption on a mobile device happens at home, so might as well just use a tablet.

My girl has the iPad Pro 12.9" and it's a fantastic device. Don't think any Android tablet can ever come close except 1-2 from the Samsung Galaxy Tab line. As for MS Surface, I'm not hot on the idea of having a huge app gap.

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Apple's losing its mojo in a slow steady drip and there's going to be more of this if they don't get it together soon.

Apple used to be synonymous with premium equipment an a "It Just Works" experience. It made it really, really easy to just get the Apple version of anything knowing it was going to be good.

My parents need equipment, I get them an iMac, an Airport Extreme, iPhone, iPad, etc...knowing it's all just going to work.

And then somebody in the business unit started getting involved. Airport extreme is basically dead. They started trimming their product line so that they no longer have an option in every category like 17" laptops. They remove features that people don't want removed like the headphone jack and leave you with no other option aside from buying attachments or more expensive battery powered headphones. They started building in batteries in slices on the laptops they do sell, welding parts to boards so you can't open it up and change things out without paying somebody at an Apple store.

They started making design decisions that are almost purposely irritating like the new Magic Mouse. Look, it's got a rechargeable battery built right in! battery dies flip it upside down to plug in the charger and just wait until you can use your computer again. God forbid you put the charger on the front so people could use it as a wired mouse if they wanted/needed.

Let's not forget using $30 USB cords to charge your phone/mouse.

The combination of all these little decisions is what is finally driving me away after being nothing short of a fanboy for about 10 years. I'm just tired of having a company that I tend to disagree with lately trying to make decisions for me so I'm starting the slow exit from Mac life.

Laptop first (waves at Dell). Then a new router (waves at Asus probably). Then a new phone (waves at Samsung/Google).

And then, because the geeks in your friends lives tend to get asked for recommendations on what they should get for themselves...that stuff is probably going to spill over. I don't seem to be the only person feeling this way lately, so I hope whoever started making bottom line decisions at Apple is happy with the long term side effect.

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