Harassment at Apple: A personal perspective

Post by guitarbill » Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM UTC

pfarnsworth wrote: post #407

guitarbill wrote: post #330

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I think what scoreponok is trying to say is at the end of the day, it's just a job. There is a lot of suffering and trauma in the world. Even though I don't want to try and quantify either of those for different events, there's probably a difference between say being affected by a natural disaster and issues at work. After all, work != life. Note that this obviously don't mean the issue is to be trivialised. After al…

This is where I can side with the author, even though I don't like her article. It's obvious you don't understand what someone on an H1B has to go through. You often feel trapped, because moving around on an H1B is not simple, especially if you are in the middle of the green card process. You literally might not be able to leave your company, unless you want to give up years of being in line for your green card. So j…

Post by dang » Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 4:56 AM UTC

kutkloon7 wrote: post #255

Very well put. I find it very annoying when people declare something to be racist. Racism is the idea that some races are superior or inferior. Unless you literally declare that some races are superior or inferior, what you say is not racist. I do agree that some things might imply that you think some races are inferior, but by declaring something racist, you state that the author has that specific idea and is trying…

Post by dang » Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 5:12 AM UTC

mistermann wrote: post #542

Wowza, maybe they do have a problem. I'm not sure I agree with all of the complaints there but it does seem they have at least some genuine issues that should be addressed. Just being completely honest, this reinforces my general opinion to be very cautious around females, avoiding it where possible is probably a wise idea.

Post by dang » Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 5:19 AM UTC

smsowmya wrote: post #34

vezycash wrote: post #27

I wonder why she didn't record everything - especially since both managers and HR were trying to gaslight her - making her doubt her sanity. If she'd gone to HR with recordings and they brushed aside her concerns then she'd have a much stronger case. Well as she said, a distressed mind doesn't think properly.

if i had the ability to be this clearheaded, we wouldn't be having this problem at all ..

Post by dang » Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 5:25 AM UTC

tnones wrote: post #53

I can't help but notice the contradiction. A man jumped to her defense, which was sexism, and then her co-workers got resentful, which she wanted to be defended from but wasn't, and that was sexism too. Somehow, we all need to display more empathy for her situation. I imagine there's a different side to this. Her coworkers noticed her getting treated differently and started teasing her about it, in a typical form of…