Lucky bastards.
/s
LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#142Great! Maybe now I'll stop getting spam connect requests from all these Russians I don't even know...
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was my point. As a libertarian I would in general tend towards not having the government involved with this stuff, but Russia and the US are two countries which have bad relations at the moment and there's uncertainty if they might have a military conflict in the near future. Here it's hard to say if it is justified as I do not know what the US secret services and the US military might be able to do with this ki…
They already have the passwords. Also, Russia doesn't and won't force any company to store users' data exclusively under their jurisdiction, as this would not allow any foreign company to operate in Russia, making your arguments incorrect.
> They already have the passwords
Which is a good reason to let them continue collecting them indefinitely?
> Also, Russia doesn't and won't force any company to store users' data exclusively under their jurisdiction, as this would not allow any foreign company to operate in Russia, making your arguments incorrect.
You state this as if it was a fact, but there is great uncertainty among lawyers and businesses if the law requires data to be stored exclusively in Russia or if that's not the case. In any way you'll have to ask for permission which they might never grant you if you are a company like Facebook that's storing very sensitive information.
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
They already have the passwords. Also, Russia doesn't and won't force any company to store users' data exclusively under their jurisdiction, as this would not allow any foreign company to operate in Russia, making your arguments incorrect.
> They already have the passwords Which is a good reason to let them continue collecting them indefinitely? > Also, Russia doesn't and won't force any company to store users' data exclusively under their jurisdiction, as this would not allow any foreign company to operate in Russia, making your arguments incorrect. You state this as if it was a fact, but there is great uncertainty among lawyers and businesses if the…
> Which is a good reason to let them continue collecting them indefinitely?
Which is not something your government can forbid or even verify, they have no way of enforcing anything under other jurisdictions. Whatever company says it did or didn't do there - the government has no choice but to believe them.
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#145As a Russian citizen, I used LinkedIn heavily to find jobs in Europe (along with stackoverflow.com/jobs). I keep a lot of contacts there (e.g. former colleagues and European recruiters, some of them are very helpful). I found it's alarming that LinkedIn is blocked in Russia. Blocking LinkedIn significantly reduces chances to find a job in Europe. But I expected that since I watched closely on new laws restricting int…
> Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English! I'm not necessary disagreeing, but why should they? I mean, it is obviously useful, but it doesn't directly translate to quality of life improvement.
It certainly indirectly translates to it though. English + internet = tons more information. English + travel = far more destinations. English + business = far more international opportunities.
For example, want to open up some business in Germany? You're going to have an easier time speaking either German or English than if you just speak Russian. Swap in Chinese/French/Spanish/Arabic if you like, but all of these still take a back seat to English (at the moment).
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They already have the passwords Which is a good reason to let them continue collecting them indefinitely? > Also, Russia doesn't and won't force any company to store users' data exclusively under their jurisdiction, as this would not allow any foreign company to operate in Russia, making your arguments incorrect. You state this as if it was a fact, but there is great uncertainty among lawyers and businesses if the…
> Which is a good reason to let them continue collecting them indefinitely? Which is not something your government can forbid or even verify, they have no way of enforcing anything under other jurisdictions. Whatever company says it did or didn't do there - the government has no choice but to believe them.
Look, I'm a Libertarian as I stated before, I do not even want a government to exist as they are oppressive by nature but I recognise that there's brutal geopolitical competition among world powers.
I can't say with the little information I've got if it is necessary or not but I understand the rationale whereby someone might implement this because they are not willing to bet the survival of their people or their nation on the goodwill of others.
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English! I'm not necessary disagreeing, but why should they? I mean, it is obviously useful, but it doesn't directly translate to quality of life improvement.
You are right, English is almost useless in Russia. It IS useful if you work in IT and have to read docs, but basic English is enough for that.
"Basic English is enough for that" ?
I am amazed at the simplicity of the work you are referring to. Do they still pay a salary for that, or are these people supposed to work for free? Maybe they get paid through something like a Russian fiverr?
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#148Russia likes to copy EU strategies and uses them for other purposes. For example, the EU and its members really like to go after US companies for privacy protection. This is usually a good thing for the consumers, but can feel like a targeted attack to the US companies in question. However, when the Russian Federation does - on the surface - almost the same thing, it suddenly has a very different impact...
so you say if Europe does something, it's good. If Russia does the same thing, it's bad, because it's Russia. OK.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure. > everbody wants to know now how those certificates are included in Russian citizens browsers. Included in the builds. > And while you are at it you could also tell us how this regulation make it more difficult for the US to spy on Russian citizens The traffic will stay inside of infrastructure controlled by the Russian government through its domestic ISPs, rather than exiting the country to ingestion nodes dis…
> Included in the builds. Russian citizens download and install specially crafted builds instead of the officials ones? Are they forced, or do they they trust those FSB builds more? > The traffic will stay inside of infrastructure controlled by the Russian government through its domestic ISPs, rather than exiting the country. I guess we are not talking about the same, because the the regulation doesn't dictate this.…
It would not be unreasonable to assume that the FSB (or perhaps rather the SVR?) has compromised a CA that's included in all the builds.
Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English! I'm not necessary disagreeing, but why should they? I mean, it is obviously useful, but it doesn't directly translate to quality of life improvement.
It certainly indirectly translates to it though. English + internet = tons more information. English + travel = far more destinations. English + business = far more international opportunities. For example, want to open up some business in Germany? You're going to have an easier time speaking either German or English than if you just speak Russian. Swap in Chinese/French/Spanish/Arabic if you like, but all of these s…
That's true, but learning a foreign language takes money and incredible amount of time (hundreds or thousands of hours). Potential opportunities by themselves are not going to keep many people motivated enough to push through.
Internet is indeed very beneficial in a sense that it provides a tangible reward path at least for learning basics.