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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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togus wrote: post #7
tobltobs wrote: post #4

I didn't know about this crazy new regulatory requirements until now. Quoting from an article [1] describing the new law: > “When collecting personal data, including through information and the internet telecommunications network, the operator is required to provide a record that the systematization, accumulation, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data of citizens of the Russian Federation, is held on datab…

> The interesting thing is, that the law seems not to forbid to store the data outside of Russia, it "just" dictates that the data has to be stored in Russia also. Correct! I was on a team trying to architect a solution for this and the requirements was really diffuse. We ended up doing a DB "replication" (via triggers) to a Russian cloud provider after the data had been committed in a european data center. The lawye…

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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

pfarnsworth wrote: post #16

Honestly, if LinkedIn disappeared today worldwide, I wouldn't miss it one second. It's really more of a chore than anything else. When you're looking for a job, or looking to recruit, it's helpful, but they haven't made the case of general everyday use, and I doubt they ever will.

> but they haven't made the case of general everyday use, and I doubt they ever will

But who thinks of LI as general purpose social media? I don't think anybody uses LI except in the strict context of finding new jobs, and making sure you can find new jobs in the future.

I don't get the criticism. It's like blaming the screwdriver for not being able to hammer in a nail.

It's a jobs site. And for that purpose it's pretty good. End of story.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by AlfeG »

tobltobs wrote: post #4

I didn't know about this crazy new regulatory requirements until now. Quoting from an article [1] describing the new law: > “When collecting personal data, including through information and the internet telecommunications network, the operator is required to provide a record that the systematization, accumulation, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data of citizens of the Russian Federation, is held on datab…

As a contractor outside of EU/USA I stuggle a lot to handle those regulations for PII(personal identify information). We have no rights to transfer even a single bit of PII out of EU/USA networks.

So I just don't understand, why it's such a news after all.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by hal9000xp »

As a Russian citizen, I used LinkedIn heavily to find jobs in Europe (along with stackoverflow.com/jobs). I keep a lot of contacts there (e.g. former colleagues and European recruiters, some of them are very helpful).

I found it's alarming that LinkedIn is blocked in Russia. Blocking LinkedIn significantly reduces chances to find a job in Europe.

But I expected that since I watched closely on new laws restricting internet freedom in Russia.

Official motivation behind this law is to prevent US spying on Russian citizens (this law was proposed after Snowden's scandal).

Of course, this motivation was a lie as everything else which came out of dirty rotten mouths of nasty Kremlin bastards.

The real motivation is that the Kremlin loves to spy on its own citizens. And they already did that for a long time.

The problem is that these anti-freedom laws do bother only very small percentage of Russians. The rest of Russia won't even notice if Kremlin completely shuts down access to the global internet. Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English!

Stupid people buy everything Kremlin tells them, including version about protecting Russian citizens from US NSA.

The general principle is that any government is constantly trying to expand itself and limit citizen's freedoms. The only force which can prevent government from endlessly limiting citizen's freedoms is the majority of citizens (definitely not a minority of non-rich citizens). Every freedom above what masses asking for is only at mercy of the government's bueracrats.

It means that in absolutely any country masses fully deserve their government.

I wrote more details about this principle here:

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-living-in-totalitarian-s...

So I consider myself as a part of absolute tiny minority of Russian citizens which has no voice at all (thanks to backward masses).

That's why I left Russia and I hope forever!

I think LinkedIn could be unblocked if LinkedIn agrees to meet these crazy requirements. Even if LinkedIn would be unblocked, it won't change sad state of freedoms in Russia.

P.S. I hope to get rid of toxic Russian citizenship in the future.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by coherentpony »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #32
pfarnsworth wrote: post #16

Honestly, if LinkedIn disappeared today worldwide, I wouldn't miss it one second. It's really more of a chore than anything else. When you're looking for a job, or looking to recruit, it's helpful, but they haven't made the case of general everyday use, and I doubt they ever will.

Last month I had to spend an hour making sure someone hadn't opened a LinkedIn account under my 8 year olds name after his aunt asked us why LinkedIn is suggesting she connect with him. Turned out she had his iCloud email in her contacts because she FaceTimes with him. LinkedIn thought it was OK to use her contact list to make it appear like he had an account there. The bastards found a way to waste my time even thou…

What's to say LinkedIn didn't create the account after seeing the contact information?

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by geoka9 »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #30

It still blows my mind that people are on linkedin. If you are not a recruiter/hiring manager it's only real purpose (that I can see) is to be a boasting board for achievements and a easy to ignore place to receive recruiting emails. Does anyone get any other value out of it?

Got a dream job out of the blue through LinkedIn. Was skeptical when the cold call came in, but decided to talk to the recruiter and ended up accepting the offer. YMMV, but you never know.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by Retric »

coherentpony wrote: post #46
jasonkostempski wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last month I had to spend an hour making sure someone hadn't opened a LinkedIn account under my 8 year olds name after his aunt asked us why LinkedIn is suggesting she connect with him. Turned out she had his iCloud email in her contacts because she FaceTimes with him. LinkedIn thought it was OK to use her contact list to make it appear like he had an account there. The bastards found a way to waste my time even thou…

What's to say LinkedIn didn't create the account after seeing the contact information?

Then that's LinkedIn's account not his kid's account.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by wruza »

hal9000xp wrote: post #45

As a Russian citizen, I used LinkedIn heavily to find jobs in Europe (along with stackoverflow.com/jobs). I keep a lot of contacts there (e.g. former colleagues and European recruiters, some of them are very helpful). I found it's alarming that LinkedIn is blocked in Russia. Blocking LinkedIn significantly reduces chances to find a job in Europe. But I expected that since I watched closely on new laws restricting int…

And you buy everything various conspiracy theorists and layman politicians sell to you. We have some issues, right, but your generalizing 'stupid' attitude is really better off this land, no matter who's in power.
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