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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#12

That was quick - it's already not accessible from Megafon cellular networks. LinkedIn is quite popular among international HRs hiring software developers in Russia. HRs may still have access, but the workforce now does not. What was the point not to comply with regulatory requirements? Too small market? Too hard to throw some user data to a server in some Moscow datacenter for persistent storage?

Risk of leaking of databases, which are vital for their business, is too high, IMHO. Did you remember closed government databases, with private information, written on CD and sold at Gorbushka for pennies?

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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I didn't know about this crazy new regulatory requirements until now. Quoting from an article [1] describing the new law: > “When collecting personal data, including through information and the internet telecommunications network, the operator is required to provide a record that the systematization, accumulation, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data of citizens of the Russian Federation, is held on datab…

I wonder if there is any requirement that the data be readable? I mean, you could store it in encrypted format, but keep the keys outside of Russia...

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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post #4

I didn't know about this crazy new regulatory requirements until now. Quoting from an article [1] describing the new law: > “When collecting personal data, including through information and the internet telecommunications network, the operator is required to provide a record that the systematization, accumulation, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data of citizens of the Russian Federation, is held on datab…

At the end of the day, creating many of these services is trivial. Creating a LinkedIn clone is trivial, and one will pop up in Russia giving some Russian owners profit and creating jobs for Russians. So how it's bad for the Russian economy, or the economy of any country to do this, is beyond me. On the other hand, dictatorships and capitalist democracies love to gather as much information as they can on their citize…

It's not about the economy, it's about control. Give them control or get out. Eventually the only companies left are those that will acquiesce to Russian demands.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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post #12

That was quick - it's already not accessible from Megafon cellular networks. LinkedIn is quite popular among international HRs hiring software developers in Russia. HRs may still have access, but the workforce now does not. What was the point not to comply with regulatory requirements? Too small market? Too hard to throw some user data to a server in some Moscow datacenter for persistent storage?

Risk of leaking of databases, which are vital for their business, is too high, IMHO. Did you remember closed government databases, with private information, written on CD and sold at Gorbushka for pennies?

That risk isn't bigger than anywhere else since we are talking about private company really concerned about security. How many leaks were there through government channels from Mail.ru Group or Yandex? None, and the reason is that, given all necessary security measures taken, you cannot just copy such a database to CD. The access will be limited to few well-paid people in IT Ops, the database can be secured using a solution certified by FSB (and even if FSB will hack it, these guys do not expose themselves by selling CDs on Gorbushka).

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#16
Honestly, if LinkedIn disappeared today worldwide, I wouldn't miss it one second. It's really more of a chore than anything else. When you're looking for a job, or looking to recruit, it's helpful, but they haven't made the case of general everyday use, and I doubt they ever will.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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post #4

I didn't know about this crazy new regulatory requirements until now. Quoting from an article [1] describing the new law: > “When collecting personal data, including through information and the internet telecommunications network, the operator is required to provide a record that the systematization, accumulation, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data of citizens of the Russian Federation, is held on datab…

At the end of the day, creating many of these services is trivial. Creating a LinkedIn clone is trivial, and one will pop up in Russia giving some Russian owners profit and creating jobs for Russians. So how it's bad for the Russian economy, or the economy of any country to do this, is beyond me. On the other hand, dictatorships and capitalist democracies love to gather as much information as they can on their citize…

LinkedIn clone already exists for quite a long time. The professionali.ru service even copied the original design when it was launched. Not successful. :)

The real alternative - startup MoiKrug.ru ("my circle"), that was launched in mid-2000s - was purchased by Yandex, made irrelevant by lack of clear strategy and finally sold to some other investor.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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I didn't know about this crazy new regulatory requirements until now. Quoting from an article [1] describing the new law: > “When collecting personal data, including through information and the internet telecommunications network, the operator is required to provide a record that the systematization, accumulation, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data of citizens of the Russian Federation, is held on datab…

> The interesting thing is, that the law seems not to forbid to store the data outside of Russia, it "just" dictates that the data has to be stored in Russia also. Correct! I was on a team trying to architect a solution for this and the requirements was really diffuse. We ended up doing a DB "replication" (via triggers) to a Russian cloud provider after the data had been committed in a european data center. The lawye…

Since you may not reliably determine the citizenship via traffic routes, probably, it's better to ask user during signup about his country (simple pre-filled "Where are you from?" question, true answer on which is required by ToS) and then route his data through a native (Russian, Chinese etc) server, which can store it and "request" further processing overseas (this fulfills all the requirements of the law, including both storage and primary processing).

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Honestly, if LinkedIn disappeared today worldwide, I wouldn't miss it one second. It's really more of a chore than anything else. When you're looking for a job, or looking to recruit, it's helpful, but they haven't made the case of general everyday use, and I doubt they ever will.

Joins groups on it. I am in a few web dev. groups and we have discussions, people share links, ask questions, etc.
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